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Tad_T
09-06-2010, 04:41 PM
I am starting over again after some injuries and an extended recovery period and layoff. I started off light and will keep leaning into it.
I have used the Starting Strength program previously and I believe in it.
I am a 46 year old male.
Height - 6'0"
BW = 225
Tuesday, 10 August 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 1
Squat
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
135 x 5
135 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
135 x 5
135 x 5
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 5
Rows
45 x 5
95 x 5
95 x 5
95 x 5
Dips
BW x 5
BW x 2
BW x 1
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Thursday, 12 August 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 2
BW = 225
Squat
45 x 5
95 x 5
145 x 5
145 x 5
145 x 5
Press
45 x 5
65 x 5
65 x 5
65 x 5
Power Clean
45 x 5
95 x 5
95 x 5
95 x 5
Chinups
BW x 3
BW x 2
BW x 1
Tad_T
09-06-2010, 04:49 PM
Saturday, 14 August 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 3
BW = 225
Squat
45 x 5
95 x 5
155 x 5
155 x 5
155 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
145 x 5
145 x 5
145 x 5
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 1
200 x 5
Rows
45 x 5
100 x 5
100 x 5
100 x 5
Dips
BW x 5
BW x 2
BW x 2
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Tuesday, 17 August 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 4
BW = 223
Squat
45 x 5
95 x 5
165 x 5
165 x 5
165 x 5
Press
45 x 5
70 x 5
70 x 5
70 x 5
Power Clean
45 x 5
100 x 5
100 x 5
100 x 5
Chinups
BW x 3
BW x 3
BW x 1
Tad_T
09-06-2010, 04:55 PM
Thursday, 19 August 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 5
BW = 222
Squat
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
175 x 5
175 x 5
175 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
155 x 5
155 x 5
155 x 5
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 1
215 x 5
Rows
45 x 5
110 x 5
110 x 5
110 x 5
Dips
BW x 5
BW x 3
BW x 3
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Saturday, 21 August 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 6
BW = 223
Squat
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 5
185 x 5
185 x 5
Press
45 x 5
75 x 5
75 x 5
75 x 5
Power Clean
45 x 5
110 x 5
110 x 5
110 x 5
Chinups
BW x 3
BW x 2
BW x 1
Tad_T
09-06-2010, 05:00 PM
Monday, 23 August 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 7
BW = 223
Squat
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
190 x 5
190 x 5
190 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
160 x 5
160 x 5
160 x 5
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 1
225 x 5
Rows
45 x 5
115 x 5
115 x 5
115 x 5
Dips
BW x 5
BW x 4
BW x 3
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Wednesday, 25 August 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 8
BW = 223
Squat
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 1
195 x 5
195 x 5
195 x 5
Press
45 x 5
65 x 3
80 x 5
80 x 5
80 x 5
Power Clean
45 x 5
115 x 5
115 x 5
115 x 5
Chinups
BW x 3
BW x 2
BW x 2
Tad_T
09-06-2010, 05:06 PM
Friday, 27 August 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 9
BW = 224
Squat
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 1
200 x 5
200 x 5
200 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 1
165 x 5
165 x 5
165 x 5
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 1
235 x 5
Rows
45 x 5
120 x 5
120 x 5
120 x 5
Dips
BW x 5
BW x 4
BW x 4
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Tuesday, 31 August 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 10
BW = 226
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 1
205 x 5
205 x 5
205 x 5
Press
45 x 5
65 x 3
85 x 5
85 x 5
85 x 5
Power Clean
45 x 5
125 x 5
125 x 5
125 x 5
Chinups
BW x 3
BW x 2
BW x 2
Tad_T
09-06-2010, 05:11 PM
Thursday, 2 September 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 11
BW = 221
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 1
210 x 5
210 x 5
210 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 2
170 x 5
170 x 5
170 x 5
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 1
245 x 5
Rows
45 x 5
125 x 5
125 x 5
125 x 5
Dips
BW x 5
BW x 5
BW x 5
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Saturday, 4 September 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 12
BW = 224
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 1
215 x 5
215 x 5
215 x 5
Press
45 x 5
65 x 3
90 x 5
90 x 5
90 x 5
Power Clean
45 x 5
130 x 5
130 x 5
130 x 5
Chinups
BW x 3
BW x 3
BW x 2
Tad_T
09-06-2010, 05:12 PM
So, that brings my journal up to date and me out of lurker status.
misspelledgeoff
09-06-2010, 05:52 PM
Welcome!
Good looking lifts. any recovery issues with losing a few pounds?
I think I've seen another log of yours elsewhere a few years back. I'll follow along here - you got some impressive progress (again - if you are the same guy). Congratulations of getting back into it.
Tad_T
09-07-2010, 07:00 AM
Welcome!
Good looking lifts. any recovery issues with losing a few pounds?
Thanks, Geoff.
No recovery issues, yet. My weight is just bouncing around a few pounds. Just a litttle recomposition going on.
I think I've seen another log of yours elsewhere a few years back. I'll follow along here - you got some impressive progress (again - if you are the same guy). Congratulations of getting back into it.
I might be the same guy. I ran a log on another site for about three years, under the same user name. I had good success using the the principles from SS and PP. The doc just cleared me to start lifting again a couple of months ago, so I am having to start over again. I am trying to be smart and not hurt myself and just work back into it.
As Starr said in The Strongest Shall Survive, "Patience + Persistence = Progress."
Tad_T
09-07-2010, 07:05 AM
Tuesday, 7 September 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 13
BW = 226
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 1
220 x 5
220 x 5
220 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 2
155 x 1
175 x 5
175 x 5
175 x 5
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 2
225 x 1
255 x 5
Rows
45 x 5
130 x 5
130 x 5
130 x 5
Dips
BW x 6
BW x 6
BW x 4
Tad_T
09-09-2010, 06:47 AM
Thursday, 9 September 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 14
BW = 224
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 1
225 x 5
225 x 5
225 x 5
Press
45 x 5
65 x 3
95 x 5
95 x 5
95 x 5
Power Clean
45 x 5
135 x 3
135 x 3
135 x 3
135 x 3
135 x 3
Chinups
BW x 3
BW x 3
BW x 2
Black_Spit
09-09-2010, 07:31 AM
I might be the same guy. I ran a log on another site for about three years, under the same user name.
On bb.com? Yeah, I remember your log there, too.
Tad_T
09-09-2010, 08:05 AM
On bb.com? Yeah, I remember your log there, too.
I remember you, too, BS.
I'm working on getting back up to where I need to be.
I might be the same guy. I ran a log on another site for about three years, under the same user name. I had good success using the the principles from SS and PP. The doc just cleared me to start lifting again a couple of months ago, so I am having to start over again. I am trying to be smart and not hurt myself and just work back into it.
As Starr said in The Strongest Shall Survive, "Patience + Persistence = Progress."
Yep, you're the guy I was thinking of. Your endeavours were very inspiring, and led me to try SS, which has helped me get back to/maintain decent strength after all the shit life has been throwing at me the last couple of years.
TSSS is just full of great quotes.
Tad_T
09-11-2010, 10:33 AM
Yep, you're the guy I was thinking of. Your endeavours were very inspiring, and led me to try SS, which has helped me get back to/maintain decent strength after all the shit life has been throwing at me the last couple of years.
TSSS is just full of great quotes.
Well, thanks, Viking.
Let's hope we both are successful.
You're right. Starr has a lot of good things to say.
Tad_T
09-11-2010, 10:38 AM
Saturday, 11 September 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 15
BW = 224
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 1
230 x 5
230 x 5
230 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
155 x 1
180 x 5
180 x 5
180 x 5
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 2
225 x 1
265 x 5
Rows
45 x 5
135 x 5
135 x 5
135 x 5
Dips
BW x 6
BW x 6
BW x 6
Tad_T
09-14-2010, 07:28 AM
Tuesday, 14 September 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 16
BW = 225
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 1
235 x 5
235 x 5
235 x 5
Press
45 x 5
65 x 3
85 x 2
100 x 5
100 x 5
100 x 5
Power Clean
45 x 5
140 x 3
140 x 3
140 x 3
140 x 3
140 x 3
Chinups
BW x 3
BW x 3
BW x 3
I always wondered where the extra pulling volume came from. I.e. why you are doing it? Good to see you getting the workouts in.
Tad_T
09-14-2010, 11:38 PM
I always wondered where the extra pulling volume came from. I.e. why you are doing it? Good to see you getting the workouts in.
Thanks.
I'm sorry, I don't really understand your question. Are you talking about the barbell rows from the floor?
Thanks.
I'm sorry, I don't really understand your question. Are you talking about the barbell rows from the floor?
I probably wasnt very clear, but that's what I mean - you seem to be doing:
A: Squat, Bench, Deadlift, ROWS+DIPS
B: Squat, Press, Power Clean, CHINS
The stuff in capitals is something you've added, and I was just wondering why.
willhu12
09-15-2010, 03:05 PM
I probably wasnt very clear, but that's what I mean - you seem to be doing:
A: Squat, Bench, Deadlift, ROWS+DIPS
B: Squat, Press, Power Clean, CHINS
The stuff in capitals is something you've added, and I was just wondering why.
A lot of people (mostly those who learned SS from BBing.com) add in Dips and Chins/PullUps.
As for the rows, I'm curious to that too.
Tad_T
09-16-2010, 09:42 AM
I probably wasnt very clear, but that's what I mean - you seem to be doing:
A: Squat, Bench, Deadlift, ROWS+DIPS
B: Squat, Press, Power Clean, CHINS
The stuff in capitals is something you've added, and I was just wondering why.
A lot of people (mostly those who learned SS from BBing.com) add in Dips and Chins/PullUps.
As for the rows, I'm curious to that too.
First of all, don't take this as arrogance, 'cause it's not. Just some background so that you can understand my reasoning on why I have structured my Starting Strength program the way that I have.
I didn't learn Starting Strength on BB.com. But it was a cool place to hang out and keep a journal back then.
I originally learned about 5x5 style training 32 years ago in high school football off-season. I had a coach named Wayne Smith that was a disciple of Bill Starr's. He was also a powerlifter and was the Arkansas state champion in the 181's for at least 15 years. I have had a copy of The Strongest Shall Survive for over 30 years.
I have a first printing of the 1st Edition of Starting Strength. I also have the 2nd Edition and will get the 3rd when it comes out. I have both editions of Practical Programming, as well.
My goal in lifting is to have functional strength, stay in shape, and just be strong.
The way that I see it your upper body works in six directions. I want to have functional, balanced strength in all six directions. If you do not train something you will not be good at it.
The most important consideration is to select exercises that have functional application to the training objective. Practical Programming, 2nd Ed. p84.
Push up = Press.
Push out = Bench.
Push down = Dips.
Pull up = Dead lifts & Power Cleans. No, I am not talking about arm pulling the bar.
Pull in = Barbell Rows from the floor.
Pull Down = Chinups/Pull ups.
Once the basic exercises have been mastered, accessory exercises can be added into training. Practical Programming, 2nd Ed., p101.
This isn't my first time running Starting Strength. I have had two runs on it before. The first time I made it 54 workouts. The second time I made it 64 workouts. I have had my training interupted by some serious injuries and had to start over before. This is just the latest time.
According to the Basic Strength Standards chart, on squat, bench, and deadlift my lifts have previously been at the Advanced level when I was younger. My lifts have previously been up to the Intermediate and Advanced level since I have been a Master's lifter (over 40). That's not just me saying it, I have achieved lifts at those levels in both Open and Master's classes at AAU sanctioned unequipped powerlifting meets. I am not at those levels now, but I do intend to get back up to there. I am far from setting any PR's, even at the Master's level.
I have been doing the basic exercises for long enough that I think I can safely add in some accessory exercises.
Power Cleans and Presses are my worst lifts. My Power Clean is probably limited more by technique problems than strength. I continue to work on improving my technique in the Power Clean.
If you can't do very many chin-ups, your press and bench press will increase as you get stronger on this very important exercise. Starting Strength, 2nd Ed., p253.
I want to get stronger on the Press so I am doing Chin-ups.
The classic barbell row is a good builder of back strength when done properly, starting each rep off of the floor like a deadlift and finishing each rep touching the abs (they are not, however, not a substitute for power cleans. Practical Programming, 2nd Ed., p101.
I want to have good back strength and balanced strength in my shoulders, so I do rows.
I have found that doing dips help my shoulders and my bench.
Workouts should consist of three to five exercises, appropriately selected from the template groups. Practical Programming, 2nd Ed., p85.
I selected exercises and structured my Starting Strength program to have two whole body workouts, one with five exercises and one with four exercises, that support my objective. In my previous training I have found this template works well for me.
As I said above I have had some serious injuries and surgeries that I have had to recover from. These include a left shoulder reconstruction, a shattered lower right leg and ankle reconstruction, having the middle finger of my right, dominant, hand cut off and reattached, a crush fracture of my right forearm and elbow, being rear-ended in an automoblie accident that messed up my pelvis and lower back, and I still have a bullet in my right lower chest.
If someone wants to tell me YDNDTP, I am OK with that. I'll just keep lifting and working my way back up. It's not my first rodeo.
Tad_T
09-16-2010, 09:47 AM
Thursday, 16 September 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 17
BW = 225
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 2
225 x 1
245 x 5
245 x 5
245 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
155 x 1
175 x 1
185 x 5
185 x 5
185 x 5
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 2
225 x 1
275 x 5
Rows
45 x 5
140 x 5
140 x 5
140 x 5
Dips
BW x 7
BW x 6
BW x 5
willhu12
09-16-2010, 09:58 AM
Wow, that was quite an informative post, thanks :)
slowjoe
09-16-2010, 11:14 AM
A lot of people (mostly those who learned SS from BBing.com) add in Dips and Chins/PullUps.
As for the rows, I'm curious to that too.
When you get the book (WYGTB), you'll read what Rip says about this.
slowjoe
09-16-2010, 11:15 AM
As I said above I have had some serious injuries and surgeries that I have had to recover from. These include a left shoulder reconstruction, a shattered lower right leg and ankle reconstruction, having the middle finger of my right, dominant, hand cut off and reattached, a crush fracture of my right forearm and elbow, being rear-ended in an automoblie accident that messed up my pelvis and lower back, and I still have a bullet in my right lower chest.
Jeez. Care to tell the story?
Just to clarify: I wasn't trying to be an SS-nazi, I was genuinely interested as I know that you (like me) are quite well-versed in and convinced by the Starr stuff as well as the Rip things. I also know that you made inspiring progress using this template last time through, hence the curiousity to the "why".
Cool backstory - I wish I'd had that sort of coaching at that point in my life. And about injuries I feel you, I've only had two very debilitating ones so far.
Interesting point about pushing/pulling down/forward/up, hadn't thought of it that way.
willhu12
09-16-2010, 01:47 PM
When you get the book (WYGTB), you'll read what Rip says about this.
I've read quite a few of Rip's opinions:
"Fuck barbell rows" - no 1
"Barbell rows are a useful assistance exercise, but not a clean replacement one" - no 2
Tad_T
09-16-2010, 09:43 PM
Wow, that was quite an informative post, thanks :)
You're quite welcome.
Jeez. Care to tell the story?
Well, I was born a poor, white child in New Orleans, Louisiana.... :-)
Not really much of a story. I'm 46 years old, spent 21 years in the Army and have gotten hurt a bunch of times over the years.
Just to clarify: I wasn't trying to be an SS-nazi, I was genuinely interested as I know that you (like me) are quite well-versed in and convinced by the Starr stuff as well as the Rip things. I also know that you made inspiring progress using this template last time through, hence the curiousity to the "why".
Cool backstory - I wish I'd had that sort of coaching at that point in my life. And about injuries I feel you, I've only had two very debilitating ones so far.
Interesting point about pushing/pulling down/forward/up, hadn't thought of it that way.
Oh, I didn't take it as you being an SS-nazi at all. I am always open to questions, comments, criticism, and feedback. It makes me think and learn, or at least clarify my point/position, and sometimes change my mind.
Yea, getting hurt sucks, I'm against it.
On the pushing and pulling, it just seems to make sense to me.
Tad_T
09-18-2010, 11:44 AM
I've read quite a few of Rip's opinions:
"Fuck barbell rows" - no 1
"Barbell rows are a useful assistance exercise, but not a clean replacement one" - no 2
I've never spoken with him about it, but I would imagine that people violating # 2 has something to do with #1.
Tad_T
09-18-2010, 11:48 AM
Saturday, 18 September 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 18
BW = 227
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 2
225 x 1
250 x 5
250 x 5
250 x 5
Press
45 x 5
65 x 3
85 x 2
105 x 5
105 x 5
105 x 5
Power Clean
45 x 5
145 x 3
145 x 3
145 x 3
145 x 3
145 x 3
Chin-ups
BW x 4
BW x 3
BW x 3
willhu12
09-19-2010, 09:19 AM
Are your chins close or wide grip?
Tad_T
09-19-2010, 09:41 AM
Are your chins close or wide grip?
Shoulder-width supine grip.
Tad_T
09-21-2010, 06:57 AM
Tuesday, 21 September 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 19
BW = 225
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 2
225 x 1
255 x 5
255 x 5
255 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
175 x 1
190 x 5
190 x 5
190 x 5
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 2
225 x 1
285 x 5
Rows
45 x 5
145 x 5
145 x 5
145 x 5
Dips
BW x 7
BW x 6
BW x 6
Nice lifts - seem you're getting back into it. Your BW dropped a few lbs - is that intentional or are you going to stay around 225 while getting strong?
How long does this workout take you? 1½ hours?
Tad_T
09-21-2010, 10:16 AM
Nice lifts - seem you're getting back into it. Your BW dropped a few lbs - is that intentional or are you going to stay around 225 while getting strong?
How long does this workout take you? 1½ hours?
Thanks. I'm working my way back up.
My BW is just fluctuating around 225. I am about 19-20% BF right now. I figure that my weight will stay around 225 while until I get my strength and LBM back up.
This workout took 52 minutes.
slowjoe
09-21-2010, 10:25 AM
Thanks. I'm working my way back up.
My BW is just fluctuating around 225. I am about 19-20% BF right now. I figure that my weight will stay around 225 while until I get my strength and LBM back up.
This workout took 52 minutes.
Lol. 27 sets in 52 minutes. It must have been like aerobics or something.
Lol. 27 sets in 52 minutes. It must have been like aerobics or something.
That's what I was thinking. Jesus christ.
willhu12
09-21-2010, 10:44 AM
That's what I was thinking. Jesus christ.
Damnit, I'm getting bested by a man in his late forties as a young teenager :angryface:
slowjoe
09-21-2010, 10:47 AM
Damnit, I'm getting bested by a man in his late forties as a young teenager :angryface:
S'ok, by next week, I'll be getting bested by the same man in my early forties. And who know what'll happen by November.
willhu12
09-21-2010, 10:57 AM
S'ok, by next week, I'll be getting bested by the same man in my early forties. And who know what'll happen by November.
Just wait till I'm the next Jacko Gill (look it up :) )
Well strength is a relatively time-resistant adaptation, and regaining it is easier than it was to come by in the first place. And Tad was pretty strong at one point.
I'm more impressed by his work ethic/speed in the gym. All that work in 52 minutes. Fucking hell.
willhu12
09-21-2010, 11:49 AM
Well strength is a relatively time-resistant adaptation, and regaining it is easier than it was to come by in the first place. And Tad was pretty strong at one point.
I'm more impressed by his work ethic/speed in the gym. All that work in 52 minutes. Fucking hell.
being in the millitary must have given him some badass endurance
being in the millitary must have given him some badass endurance
Some badass willpower (or un-pussyness) more like. VO2-max and such actually decline quite rapidly if not trained.
slowjoe
09-21-2010, 04:48 PM
Some badass willpower (or un-pussyness) more like. VO2-max and such actually decline quite rapidly if not trained.
Combination of willpower, and being able to add 50lbs to each of his lifts tomorrow if he wasn't being disciplned and following the program properly.
Tad_T
09-22-2010, 09:57 AM
Thanks for the compliments, guys, but it really isn't that big a deal.
I just rotate through my warmup sets after changing the weight on the bar, take a minute or two and then start my work sets.
I usually rest 2-3 minutes between work sets and then go when I am ready.
I then transition between exercises as soon as I can set up my station and then go to the next warmups. Rinse, repeat.
Rest times between work sets will increase as I get into heavier territory which will make the workouts a little longer.
Thanks for the compliments, guys, but it really isn't that big a deal.
I just rotate through my warmup sets after changing the weight on the bar, take a minute or two and then start my work sets.
I usually rest 2-3 minutes between work sets and then go when I am ready.
I then transition between exercises as soon as I can set up my station and then go to the next warmups. Rinse, repeat.
Rest times between work sets will increase as I get into heavier territory which will make the workouts a little longer.
I take 5-7 mins between sets on squats, 4-5 on Bench/Press. So that obviously accounts for some, if you're still only taking 2-3. Still - you have all that accessory stuff as well.
If I understand it correctly, you have the possibility of setting up for the next excercise while resting on the current one? That'd save a slight bit of time as well.
Tad_T
09-22-2010, 07:06 PM
At the Y where I currently lift, I can only set up one station at a time.
I am waiting to find out if our offer gets accepted on a different house. We are supposed to hear Friday or Monday.
If we get it, I get a finished and insulated 24' x 32' shop with an additional 16' x 16' room built onto the back of it.
Then I get to build me a platform and set up my home gym the way I want to.
At the Y where I currently lift, I can only set up one station at a time.
I am waiting to find out if our offer gets accepted on a different house. We are supposed to hear Friday or Monday.
If we get it, I get a finished and insulated 24' x 32' shop with an additional 16' x 16' room built onto the back of it.
Then I get to build me a platform and set up my home gym the way I want to.
Good luck. Even though buying property is dicey business these days. I'd really frigging like to set up a home gym as well.
Tad_T
09-23-2010, 07:18 AM
Thursday, 23 September 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 20
BW = 225
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 2
225 x 1
260 x 5
260 x 5
260 x 5
Press
45 x 5
75 x 3
95 x 1
110 x 5
110 x 5
110 x 5
Power Clean
45 x 5
135 x 1
150 x 3
150 x 3
150 x 3
150 x 3
150 x 3
Chin-ups
BW x 4
BW x 4
BW x 3
Tad_T
09-24-2010, 08:05 PM
I have to work tomorrow, so I am going to have to delay my Saturday workout until Sunday.
Regularly scheduled programming will resume on Tuesday.
Looking over your warmups on the squat, I noticed the single pretty close to workset weight. I usually have my double (do 5-3-2 standard deal) be pretty close, but perhaps a single is better so as to not tap into the energy for the workset.
Still making these workouts in less than an hour?
Tad_T
09-24-2010, 10:39 PM
I usually do my heavier warmups as a single for just that reason.
The last one took 51 minutes.
Tad_T
09-25-2010, 07:49 PM
I got off work early enough to get to the gym and get my workout in.
Saturday, 25 September 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 21
BW = 224
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 2
225 x 1
265 x 5
265 x 5
265 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
175 x 1
195 x 5
195 x 5
195 x 5
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 1
275 x 1
300 x 5
Rows
45 x 5
135 x 2
150 x 5
150 x 5
150 x 5
Dips
BW x 7
BW x 7
BW x 7
Before you ask, 56 minutes.
I added a couple of warmup sets, I didn't slow down. ;-)
Black_Spit
09-25-2010, 08:03 PM
Hey keep up the good work Tad. That's a lot of stuff to get done in 56 minutes. I'm having a hard time finishing just squats, presses and cleans in under an hour. One of the reasons I'm starting some conditioning.
Tad_T
09-25-2010, 09:19 PM
Thanks, BS.
I go for a 3 1/2 mile walk every morning with my wife on the days I don't lift.
misspelledgeoff
09-25-2010, 09:25 PM
Great progress Tad_T, and thanks for your contribution to this forum. Especially in the "what to do next" thread which was excellent.
Thanks, BS.
I go for a 3 1/2 mile walk every morning with my wife on the days I don't lift.
I do this as well, just take the dog in stead of the wife (more quiet that way ;))
That's some nice lifting, strength is coming back pretty quick, huh?
Tad_T
09-26-2010, 07:42 AM
Great progress Tad_T, and thanks for your contribution to this forum. Especially in the "what to do next" thread which was excellent.
Thanks, Geoff.
I do this as well, just take the dog in stead of the wife (more quiet that way ;))
That's some nice lifting, strength is coming back pretty quick, huh?
Thanks, Viking. I like taking the walks. It makes me feel better.
I am steadily working my way back up. It sometimes seems kind of slow to me, but it really isn't when I think about it. I have to remind myself to not be greedy.
Thanks, Geoff.
Thanks, Viking. I like taking the walks. It makes me feel better.
I am steadily working my way back up. It sometimes seems kind of slow to me, but it really isn't when I think about it. I have to remind myself to not be greedy.
When I made my comeback in March I started out with 75 lbs on the squat - no joke. Injuries and crap made it necessary to start out very light and get shit right. In my book you're progressing pretty damn fast.
Tad_T
09-26-2010, 10:21 AM
When I made my comeback in March I started out with 75 lbs on the squat - no joke. Injuries and crap made it necessary to start out very light and get shit right. In my book you're progressing pretty damn fast.
I started back at 135 and in 21 workouts over 7 weeks I have added 130 lbs onto my squat. I guess it's not THAT slow :-)
Thanks for the encouragement.
Tad_T
09-28-2010, 07:29 AM
Tuesday, 28 September 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 22
BW = 225
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 2
225 x 1
270 x 5
270 x 5
270 x 5
Press
45 x 5
75 x 3
95 x 1
115 x 5
115 x 5
115 x 5
Power Clean
45 x 5
135 x 1
155 x 3
155 x 3
155 x 3
155 x 3
155 x 3
Chin-ups
BW x 4
BW x 4
BW x 3
Tad_T
09-30-2010, 07:07 AM
Thusday, 30 September 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 23
BW = 225
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 2
225 x 1
275 x 5
275 x 5
275 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 1
200 x 5
200 x 5
200 x 5
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
315 x 5
Rows
45 x 5
135 x 2
155 x 5
155 x 5
155 x 5
Dips
BW x 8
BW x 8
BW x 6
Putting in some solid workouts. Are things starting to feel heavy, or are you still on easy street?
Tad_T
09-30-2010, 10:45 AM
Putting in some solid workouts. Are things starting to feel heavy, or are you still on easy street?
Thanks.
A little heavy on the last reps. Nothing where I think I am close to stalling yet.
Tad_T
10-02-2010, 10:45 AM
Saturday, 2 October 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 24
BW = 225
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 2
225 x 1
280 x 5
280 x 5
280 x 5
Press
45 x 5
75 x 3
95 x 2
120 x 5
120 x 5
120 x 5
Power Clean
45 x 5
135 x 2
160 x 3
160 x 3
160 x 3
160 x 3
160 x 3
Chin-ups
BW x 4
BW x 4
BW x 4
Tad_T
10-05-2010, 09:05 AM
Tuesday, 5 October 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 25
BW = 224
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 2
225 x 1
285 x 5
285 x 5
285 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 1
205 x 5
205 x 5
205 x 5
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
330 x 5
Rows
45 x 5
135 x 2
160 x 5
160 x 5
160 x 5
Dips
BW x 8
BW x 8
BW x 7
Black_Spit
10-05-2010, 09:45 AM
Nice workout. Just curious why do you run through a whole deadlift warmup after doing squats already? Seems like a waste of time/energy to me, but then again you're a little older than me too. Maybe you just need the extra movement.
Tad_T
10-05-2010, 12:18 PM
Nice workout. Just curious why do you run through a whole deadlift warmup after doing squats already? Seems like a waste of time/energy to me, but then again you're a little older than me too. Maybe you just need the extra movement.
Thanks.
Yea, I'm 46 and farting dust.
Actually it doesn't take that long. I have to load the bar anyway and along the way I stop and pick it up a few times. I don't really rest between the warmups. Just reload the bar and go. Then I take a minute or two before the work set.
It is a different movement and the warmup helps me get my form right for the heavy set. Kind of a grease the groove thing. Helps me get my mind right, too. As I pull the warmups, they don't feel that heavy, so I know I can pull the work set.
This morning's workout took 57 minutes. So it doesn't add that much to the time in the gym.
Thanks.
Yea, I'm 46 and farting dust.
Actually it doesn't take that long. I have to load the bar anyway and along the way I stop and pick it up a few times. I don't really rest between the warmups. Just reload the bar and go. Then I take a minute or two before the work set.
It is a different movement and the warmup helps me get my form right for the heavy set. Kind of a grease the groove thing. Helps me get my mind right, too. As I pull the warmups, they don't feel that heavy, so I know I can pull the work set.
This morning's workout took 57 minutes. So it doesn't add that much to the time in the gym.
I agree with the deadlift thing. Also it's one of the excercises where it's easiest to tweak your back. And iirc Tad is one of my fellow sufferers of lower back problems in the past, and this really makes you careful about this shit.
In any case you might be farting dust, but you still get through your workout in 60-70% of the time I use. And my workouts dont even include the assistence you do.
Good work.
Tad_T
10-09-2010, 03:24 PM
Pulmonary embolisms. I'm against them. They hurt.
Had one occur on Wednesday afternoon. I am in the hospital and not liking this at all. I might get out tomorrow.
Pulmonary embolisms. I'm against them. They hurt.
Had one occur on Wednesday afternoon. I am in the hospital and not liking this at all. I might get out tomorrow.
Jesus christ that sucks. I live at an altitude of more than 3500 meters at the moment, so I've heard about my fair share of those (though happily have not suffered one). Any idea what caused it?
In any case, rest up, get well. These things arent to be trifled with, but recovery seems to be fairly speedy.
Tad_T
10-10-2010, 06:16 AM
They don't have any idea what caused it. The doctors say that it should not have happened because I don't have any of the risk factors.
They say that 70% of them are from blood clots in the legs that break loose and then lodge in the lungs.
One doctor speculated that it may be because I lift heavy weights, especially squats and deadlifts. When I questioned him about that, he said that he had no evidence to support that squats and deadlifts would cause blod clots in your legs..
willhu12
10-10-2010, 09:31 AM
They don't have any idea what caused it. The doctors say that it should not have happened because I don't have any of the risk factors.
They say that 70% of them are from blood clots in the legs that break loose and then lodge in the lungs.
One doctor speculated that it may be because I lift heavy weights, especially squats and deadlifts. When I questioned him about that, he said that he had no evidence to support that squats and deadlifts would cause blod clots in your legs..
Unsurprsing
Black_Spit
10-10-2010, 09:50 AM
Wow man. You're feeling ok now?
Tad_T
10-10-2010, 10:14 AM
Not really. I am still in the hospital. I am feeling a little better. I am not sure when they are going to let me out. They are still supposed to do a few more tests, but it is the weekend, you know.
Not really. I am still in the hospital. I am feeling a little better. I am not sure when they are going to let me out. They are still supposed to do a few more tests, but it is the weekend, you know.
I've been in a lot of hospitals lately, I feel your pain. What's important is that you (and your wife/family) don't just accept whatever the hospital throws at you. Aggressive/ressourceful patientents get alot better treatment.
Luckily pulmonary embolisms, when caught early enough, arent that bad AFAIK insofar as they dont hamper you for a long time. As to what caused it, I'm pretty sure that any decent doc could come up with something better than "deadlifts". Jesus.
Keep your spirits up, and get well.
Tad_T
10-11-2010, 01:51 PM
Well, the doctor is fixing to let me go home.
She says that I'll have to do anti-coagulation therapy for at least 6 months, maybe forever. It sure beats the alternative, though.
Just for the record, I don't recommend pulmonary embolisms for recreational use. ;-)
slowjoe
10-11-2010, 04:32 PM
Well, the doctor is fixing to let me go home.
She says that I'll have to do anti-coagulation therapy for at least 6 months, maybe forever. It sure beats the alternative, though.
Just for the record, I don't recommend pulmonary embolisms for recreational use. ;-)
Uh, what's the alternative?
Good to have you back, did she say anything about when you can start lifting again?
Tad_T
10-11-2010, 07:00 PM
Uh, what's the alternative?
Good to have you back, did she say anything about when you can start lifting again?
Not being around to be on anti-coagulant therapy.
Probably next week I can start lifting again. I'll probably do a reset and split my jumps until I feel up to speed.
Not being around to be on anti-coagulant therapy.
Probably next week I can start lifting again. I'll probably do a reset and split my jumps until I feel up to speed.
Sounds like a good plan, and good that you are getting out, finally. With any luck this was just a freak incident that'll never happen again.
Black_Spit
10-13-2010, 05:38 AM
How are you feeling?
Tad_T
10-13-2010, 08:45 AM
Not as much like a bug on a pin, but not close to 100% either. It kind of feels as if someone stabbed me through the chest from the right side of my sternum to my right scapula.
They are telling me that the clot actually killed a part of my right lung and I am going to have to work back up on my lung capacity. It might take a day or two.
I am working on it and will be back under the bar as soon as I can.
Thanks for asking, BS.
Tad_T
10-19-2010, 07:02 AM
Reset and restart after pulmonary embolism on 6 October.
Tuesday, 19 October 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 26
BW = 228
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 2
225 x 5
225 x 5
225 x 5
Press
45 x 5
75 x 3
95 x 5
95 x 5
95 x 5
Power Clean
45 x 5
135 x 3
135 x 3
135 x 3
135 x 3
135 x 3
Chin-ups
BW x 4
BW x 4
BW x 3
Good to see you get back under the bar. Welcome back.
Tad_T
10-19-2010, 11:32 PM
Thanks, Viking.
It was good to get back into the gym.
I was a little apprehensive, so I started back with conservative weights. The workout went well.
Tad_T
10-21-2010, 06:57 AM
Thursday, 21 October 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 27
BW = 224
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 2
230 x 5
230 x 5
230 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 5
185 x 5
185 x 5
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 5
Rows
45 x 5
135 x 2
165 x 5
165 x 5
165 x 5
Dips
BW x 8
BW x 8
BW x 4
Lost 4 lbs since last session, eh? I guess fluctuation can be quite significant, but that's still quite abit. Apart from that, strong session. As always impressed by the volume you manage to pack into your workouts.
slowjoe
10-22-2010, 06:03 PM
Your nick should be a variant on tank. Near-death health problem slowing him down?
Naw, the tank just keeps on going.
Tad_T
10-23-2010, 06:21 PM
Lost 4 lbs since last session, eh? I guess fluctuation can be quite significant, but that's still quite abit. Apart from that, strong session. As always impressed by the volume you manage to pack into your workouts.
Thanks, Viking.
I believe part of the gain was from residual constipation from the painkillers.
Your nick should be a variant on tank. Near-death health problem slowing him down?
Naw, the tank just keeps on going.
Thanks, Joe.
When I was a soldier, riding tanks was what I did.
Tad_T
10-23-2010, 06:23 PM
Saturday, 23 October 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 28
BW = 225
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 2
235 x 5
235 x 5
235 x 5
Press
45 x 5
75 x 3
100 x 5
100 x 5
100 x 5
Power Clean
45 x 5
140 x 3
140 x 3
140 x 3
140 x 3
140 x 3
Chin-ups
BW x 4
BW x 4
BW x 3
Tad_T
10-26-2010, 07:32 AM
Tuesday, 26 October 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 29
Start: 0537 Finish: 0626
BW = 226
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 2
225 x 1
240 x 5
240 x 5
240 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
165 x 2
190 x 5
190 x 5
190 x 5
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
290 x 5
Rows
45 x 5
135 x 3
170 x 5
170 x 5
170 x 5
Dips
BW x 8
BW x 8
BW x 7
Morning workout, huh? I find everything feels "heavier" that early in the morning. Good job getting it done.
Tad_T
10-28-2010, 07:42 AM
Thanks, Viking.
Mornings is the only place I can fit it in. I'm kind of used to it.
Tad_T
10-28-2010, 07:46 AM
Thursday, 28 October 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 30
Start: 0536 Finish: 0616
BW = 226
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 2
225 x 1
245 x 5
245 x 5
245 x 5
Press
45 x 5
95 x 2
105 x 5
105 x 5
105 x 5
Power Clean
45 x 5
135 x 1
145 x 3
145 x 3
145 x 3
145 x 3
145 x 3
Chin-ups
BW x 4
BW x 4
BW x 3
Mornings is the only place I can fit it in. I'm kind of used to it.
I feel you on that. I'm guessing you are one of those guys who only needs 6-7 hours of sleep, huh? If I have to get up and work out before work I have to be in bed at like 9 pm...
What kind of rest are you taking between sets at this point? All that work in 40 minutes... I'm still quite impressed.
slowjoe
10-28-2010, 10:37 AM
I feel you on that. I'm guessing you are one of those guys who only needs 6-7 hours of sleep, huh? If I have to get up and work out before work I have to be in bed at like 9 pm...
What kind of rest are you taking between sets at this point? All that work in 40 minutes... I'm still quite impressed.
He's got a shitload in the tank ATM. If we put him on a platform, I think he'd move a whole lot more than he is now.
Tad, how are you feeling after the lung biz and the anti-coagulents?
Tad_T
10-31-2010, 09:48 PM
Sunday, 31 October 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 31
Start: 1547 Finish: 1635
BW = 228
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 2
225 x 1
250 x 5
250 x 5
250 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
165 x 2
195 x 5
195 x 5
195 x 5
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
305 x 5
Rows
45 x 5
135 x 3
175 x 5
175 x 5
175 x 5
Dips
BW x 8
BW x 8
BW x 8
Tad_T
10-31-2010, 10:06 PM
I feel you on that. I'm guessing you are one of those guys who only needs 6-7 hours of sleep, huh? If I have to get up and work out before work I have to be in bed at like 9 pm...
What kind of rest are you taking between sets at this point? All that work in 40 minutes... I'm still quite impressed.
I hate to sleep. I think that it is an incredible waste of life. But I usually sleep 5-6 hours and then I am wide awake.
About 2 minutes between sets.
Thanks, Viking but I don't really think it is that impressive. It is something that can be trained like anything else.
I would like to think that right now that it is something like Joe says.
He's got a shitload in the tank ATM. If we put him on a platform, I think he'd move a whole lot more than he is now.
Tad, how are you feeling after the lung biz and the anti-coagulents?
I'm struggling a little. I am the lucky guy who seems to be having most of the uncommon side effects to the warfarin/coumadin. They did a bunch of tests on Thursday & Friday to ruke out any further complications. I haven't heard all of the final results yet, but it seems as I am just going to have to learn to live with it as long as I have to take this stuff.
Thanks for asking.
willhu12
11-01-2010, 03:41 AM
Do you train aerobic endurance? Seriously Tad, that kind of work in all that time is very impressive. And I'm a semi-fit 15 year old teen.
I feel you on the side-effects and health issues encroaching on your life. How long are you on that crap?
I envy that you cant get by on such little sleep. Apparently it's genetical, and people are usually somewhere between 6-9 hours. I am - unfortunately - in the upper end of the scale. If I don't get at least 8 hours I don't function, no matter how hard I try to slowly get used to less sleep.
I know that you arent working at full capacity yet. So maybe that's what's impressive. Treating 3x5x250 post-embolism as a light workout. In any case, strong stuff.
Tad_T
11-02-2010, 07:51 AM
Do you train aerobic endurance? Seriously Tad, that kind of work in all that time is very impressive. And I'm a semi-fit 15 year old teen.
Currently on my non-lifting days I walk 3.5 miles. I walk it quickly, it takes about 50 minutes. But that has more to do with overall fitness, it really doesn't have anything to do with how quickly I work in the gym.
Lifting in the gym uses different bodily energy systems than walking or aerobic endurance. Length of rest periods is a training variable that can be manipulated just like any other training variable.
I feel you on the side-effects and health issues encroaching on your life. How long are you on that crap?
I envy that you cant get by on such little sleep. Apparently it's genetical, and people are usually somewhere between 6-9 hours. I am - unfortunately - in the upper end of the scale. If I don't get at least 8 hours I don't function, no matter how hard I try to slowly get used to less sleep.
I know that you arent working at full capacity yet. So maybe that's what's impressive. Treating 3x5x250 post-embolism as a light workout. In any case, strong stuff.
Six months to life is what they told me. I'm not really sure yet.
On the sleep thing, I am sure there are individual variations. I don't really understand how that works. I know that being in the Army for all of those years has something to do with it for me.
Next week I'll be back up to where I was before I suffered this. Then I'll just keep working back up.
Patience + Persistence = Progress.
Tad_T
11-02-2010, 07:55 AM
Tuesday, 2 November 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 32
Start: 0538 Finish: 0621
BW = 227
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 2
225 x 1
255 x 5
255 x 5
255 x 5
Press
45 x 5
95 x 3
110 x 5
110 x 5
110 x 5
Power Clean
45 x 5
135 x 1
150 x 3
150 x 3
150 x 3
150 x 3
150 x 3
Chin-ups
BW x 4
BW x 4
BW x 3
Great work as always, Tad. I agree with the energy systems thing (as I also read alot of the Starr stuff) however I do think your walking has *some* effect. If your cardio-vascular fitness is better, your pulse drops faster after a workset, making you feel ready for the next workset faster. At least that makes sense to me, and I even think there's something in TSSS about it.
I need to get my fasted morning walks back up and running.
Tad_T
11-04-2010, 06:56 AM
I sure it has some effect in the overall picture, so my statement was incorrect. It would be more accurate to say that I do not believe it is the major factor.
Tad_T
11-04-2010, 07:00 AM
Thursday, 4 November 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 33
Start: 0530 Finish: 0621
BW = 227
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 2
225 x 1
260 x 5
260 x 5
260 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 1
200 x 5
200 x 5
200 x 5
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
315 x 5
Rows
45 x 5
135 x 3
180 x 5
180 x 5
180 x 5
Dips
BW x 9
BW x 9
BW x 5
Squatting and deadlifting (three plates already!) heavy in the same session. Nice. Are you belting any of the lifts yet?
Tad_T
11-09-2010, 07:18 AM
Tuesday, 9 November 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 34
Start: 0532 Finish: 0617
BW = 229
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 2
225 x 1
265 x 5
265 x 5
265 x 5
Press
45 x 5
95 x 3
115 x 5
115 x 5
115 x 5
Power Clean
45 x 5
135 x 1
155 x 3
155 x 3
155 x 3
155 x 3
155 x 3
Chin-ups
BW x 4
BW x 4
BW x 4
Tad_T
11-09-2010, 07:24 AM
Squatting and deadlifting (three plates already!) heavy in the same session. Nice. Are you belting any of the lifts yet?
Thanks, Viking. I use my belt for worksets on squat, deadlift, and press.
I skipped my weekend workout this past weekend. I try to never miss a workout, but, this damned rat poison that I have to take makes me sick, sore, and has a negative impact on my recovery.
shaddix
11-09-2010, 12:37 PM
Warfarin :( has it messed up your diet ?
Can't take multivitamins?
Thanks, Viking. I use my belt for worksets on squat, deadlift, and press.
I skipped my weekend workout this past weekend. I try to never miss a workout, but, this damned rat poison that I have to take makes me sick, sore, and has a negative impact on my recovery.
I do the same for belt. I do use it on last warmup on deads and squats, though.
It sucks about the poison - I feel you on that one. I find that a good diet and supps become even more important in situations like this. And then you just have to be patient, luckily you are pretty good at that.
Tad_T
11-11-2010, 03:27 PM
Thursday, 11 November 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 35
Start: 0929 Finish: 1019
BW = 229
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 3
225 x 1
270 x 5
270 x 5
270 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 2
205 x 5
205 x 5
205 x 5
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
325 x 5
Rows
45 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 5
185 x 5
185 x 5
Dips
BW x 9
BW x 9
BW x 5
Tad_T
11-11-2010, 03:31 PM
Warfarin :( has it messed up your diet ?
Can't take multivitamins?
Yea, Warfarin. It has messed up my eating, digestion, pooping. I can still take a multivitamin and they just adjust around it. I am currently taking 7.5 mg 4 days a week and 10 mg 3 days a week.
I do the same for belt. I do use it on last warmup on deads and squats, though.
It sucks about the poison - I feel you on that one. I find that a good diet and supps become even more important in situations like this. And then you just have to be patient, luckily you are pretty good at that.
Yea, you're right, it is just all part of the game.
Yea, Warfarin. It has messed up my eating, digestion, pooping. I can still take a multivitamin and they just adjust around it. I am currently taking 7.5 mg 4 days a week and 10 mg 3 days a week.
Yea, you're right, it is just all part of the game.
Indeed it is. And you just squatted 270 for sets across, and deadlifted three plates +, so at least your body still works quite well. I always find comfort in this, when I'm feeling like crap.
Tad_T
11-13-2010, 09:24 PM
Saturday, 13 November 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 36
Start: 1101 Finish: 1144
BW = 230
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 3
225 x 1
275 x 5
275 x 5
275 x 5
Press
45 x 5
95 x 3
120 x 5
120 x 5
120 x 5
Power Clean
45 x 5
135 x 2
160 x 3
160 x 3
160 x 3
160 x 3
160 x 3
Chin-ups
BW x 5
BW x 4
BW x 3
Tad_T
11-13-2010, 09:27 PM
Indeed it is. And you just squatted 270 for sets across, and deadlifted three plates +, so at least your body still works quite well. I always find comfort in this, when I'm feeling like crap.
That's a good way to look at it. I figure as long as I am still making progress, then I'm doing all right.
They are telling me that I need to stay on Warfarin for at least a year, so I just have to figure out how to work with it.
That's a good way to look at it. I figure as long as I am still making progress, then I'm doing all right.
They are telling me that I need to stay on Warfarin for at least a year, so I just have to figure out how to work with it.
That's a motherfucker. Good news is that even on Warfarin, you are still putting up some decent numbers, and progressing quite rapidly. "Warfarin" is a weird name for a drug, btw.
Tad_T
11-16-2010, 07:29 AM
Tuesday, 16 November 2010
Starting Strength Workout # 37
Start: 0536 Finish: 0630
BW = 230
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 1
280 x 5
280 x 5
280 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 2
210 x 5
210 x 5
210 x 4 <-- Fail.
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
335 x 5
Rows
45 x 5
135 x 3
190 x 5
190 x 5
190 x 5
Dips
BW x 9
BW x 9
BW x 5
I knew that the fail was coming on bench. I will repeat at the same weight during my next bench workout and then I will probably halve my jumps after that.
Building fence all weekend may have had something to do with it. Digging postholes and driving T-posts took up a large part of my weekend.
Tad_T
08-16-2011, 02:59 PM
I am back posting in my on-line log. I had some setbacks. Wound up in the hospital again a couple of times and basically had to stop working out for a few months. I got fat and weak.
The docs cleared me to start lifting again in June. I am still on the warfarin/coumadin.
I started off low and simplified my workouts.
I am doing an A - B rotation.
Workout A
Squat - 3x5
Bench - 3x5
Deadlift - 1x5
Chin-ups - 3 sets
Workout B
Squat - 3x5
Press - 3x5
Rows - 3x5
Dips - 3 Sets
I started over at 135 on Squat, Bench, and Rows with a 5 pound progression,
185 on Deadlift with a 10 pound progression,
and 95 on Press initially with a 5 pound progression, now I have backed down to 2.5.
I also do some Decline Situps and Back Extensions as part of my warmup.
I am going to stay with this simple program until I have to go to an advanced novice scheme.
So, today looked like this:
Tuesday, 16 August, 2011
Workout # 27
Start: 0815 Finish: 0905
BW = 248
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 1
265 x 5
265 x 5
265 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 3
185 x 1
200 x 5
200 x 5
200 x 5
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
315 x 5
Chin-Ups
BW x 5
BW x 4
BW x 4
Tad_T
08-18-2011, 11:51 AM
Thursday, 18 August 2011
Workout # 28
Start: 0902 Finish: 0953
BW = 249
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 1
270 x 5
270 x 5
270 x 5
Press
45 x 5
95 x 3
115 x 2
135 x 1
147.5 x 5
147.5 x 5
147.5 x 5
Rows
45 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 1
200 x 5
200 x 5
200 x 5
Dips
BW x 8
BW x 8
BW x 7
Overall this was a good workout. Continuing to build back up on everything.
Tad_T
08-20-2011, 11:34 AM
Saturday, 20 August, 2011
Workout # 29
Start: 0810 Finish: 0859
BW = 248
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 1
275 x 5
275 x 5
275 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 1
205 x 5
205 x 5
205 x 5
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
325 x 5
Chin-Ups
BW x 5
BW x 4
BW x 3
Pretty solid workout. I just couldn't get my chin over the bar to count the last one.
I'll just have to keep working at it to work back up. I am finally starting to get back up into the semi-decent range overall.
Tad_T
08-22-2011, 06:44 PM
I am in Baltimore from Mon-Thu this week for work. Where I am staying is seeming to have a large limiting effect on being able to lift. If I cannot figure this out, I may have to wait until I get home on Friday to lift.
Tad_T
08-26-2011, 04:17 PM
Got back home this afternoon after being stuck in Minneapolis last night.
Friday, 26 August 2011
Workout # 30
Start: 1508 Finish: 1559
BW = 249
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 1
280 x 5
280 x 5
280 x 5
Press
45 x 5
95 x 3
115 x 2
135 x 1
150 x 5
150 x 5
150 x 5
Rows
45 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 1
205 x 5
205 x 5
205 x 5
Dips
BW x 8
BW x 8
BW x 7
Tad_T
08-28-2011, 12:05 PM
Sunday, 28 August, 2011
Workout # 31
Start: 1008 Finish: 1103
BW = 249
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
285 x 5
285 x 5
285 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 1
210 x 5
210 x 5
210 x 5
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
335 x 5
Chin-Ups
BW x 5
BW x 4
BW x 3
Lifted today which gives me two workouts this week. So, in spite of traveling for work I only missed one workout. I will pick up on my Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday rotation this week. Then next week I will get Tuesday and Thursday in but will be traveling again for work and will probably miss my Saturday workout. For the next two weeks after that I will be at Ft. Lewis which has nice gyms and will be able to get my lifting on even though I am out of town.
Tad_T
08-30-2011, 09:08 AM
Tuesday, 30 August 2011
Workout # 32
Start: 0728 Finish: 0825
BW = 250
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
290 x 5
290 x 5
290 x 5
Press
45 x 5
95 x 3
115 x 2
135 x 1
152.5 x 5
152.5 x 5
152.5 x 4 <--- Fail. Will repeat next workout.
Rows
45 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 1
210 x 5
210 x 5
210 x 5
Dips
BW x 8
BW x 8
BW x 8
Didn't realize you were back on the horse. I take it that all the health stuff is subsiding, or is there still a risk of setbacks etc.? You really caught an unlucky break there.
Tad_T
08-30-2011, 11:51 AM
Didn't realize you were back on the horse. I take it that all the health stuff is subsiding, or is there still a risk of setbacks etc.? You really caught an unlucky break there.
It is still an ongoing issue. Was back in the hospital a couple of times. I had to get some blood drawn for tests this morning. Then I have appointments with doctors on Friday and next Wednesday to talk about where we go from here.
I finally was able to get back to regular workouts again a couple of months ago after a few fits, starts, and stumbles. Looking at my log, I started on this cycle in May. I started posting on here again in my online log a couple of weeks ago.
I did get moved into my new (to us) house and I have my own gear set up out in my shop, Power rack, bench, glute ham, slant board. I like working out with my own equipment and not having to fool around with anyone else when I am trying to get my lift on.
Tad_T
09-01-2011, 09:49 AM
Thursday, 1 Sep, 2011
Workout # 33
Start: 0730 Finish: 0823
BW = 246
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
295 x 5
295 x 5
295 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 1
215 x 5
215 x 5
215 x 5
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
315 x 1
345 x 5
Chin-Ups
BW x 5
BW x 4
BW x 3
Strong lifting already. You are a lucky man that you have your own place and your own equipment. I hope everything works out with the tests, meds etc.
Tad_T
09-01-2011, 10:34 PM
Strong lifting already. You are a lucky man that you have your own place and your own equipment. I hope everything works out with the tests, meds etc.
Thank you, sir. I feel very lucky and grateful, too.
Stuff always works out. Maybe not like you want it to, but it always works out.
Stuff always works out. Maybe not like you want it to, but it always works out.
There's alot of truth to this. But then I'll be abit more specific and say that I hope things work out in a way, which allows you to get back to your previous strength, and stay healthy. I'll especially look forward to you tackling TM, as you had some good insights on that in a thread a while back.
Tad_T
09-02-2011, 10:37 AM
I appreciate that.
I hope it goes that way, too. If I spend too much time thinking about all of that, it does not turn out good for me. So, I am just gonna try to keep getting under the bar.
I am going to run this scheme as far as I can and then try to wring everything I can out of advanced novice type programming before I try to go TM. I am working towards TM, but I do not plan on moving until LP just stalls totally or becomes just too brutal.
Tad_T
09-04-2011, 05:02 PM
Sunday, 4 September 2011
Workout # 34
Start: 1300 Finish: 1358
BW = 248
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
300 x 5
300 x 5
300 x 5
Press
45 x 5
95 x 3
115 x 2
135 x 1
152.5 x 5
152.5 x 5
152.5 x 5
Rows
45 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 1
215 x 5
215 x 5
215 x 5
Dips
BW x 9
BW x 9
BW x 8
I got the last rep on press but it was a struggle. I am going to continue to try to advance. I guess it is time to break out the micro microplates and go to 1 pound or 1 1/2 pound jumps vs 2 1/2 pound jumps.
I did add to everything else so I feel like it was a pretty solid workout.
As always alot of work in a short timeframe. Good job. I was wondering 2 things.
1) Whats your diet like - it seems like you are trying to shed abit of weight?
2) Are you planning on micro-microloading? I seem to recall that last time you even went to 2.5lb jumps on squats, in stead of going to intermediate programming, whereas most will switch over when workout to workout progress is no longer possible with 5 lb jumps (or 2.5 lb in case of bench/press).
Tad_T
09-06-2011, 10:43 PM
Tuesday, 6 Sep, 2011
Workout # 35
Start: 0930 Finish: 1020
BW = 246
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
305 x 5
305 x 5
305 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 1
220 x 5
220 x 5
220 x 5
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
315 x 1
355 x 5
Chin-Ups
BW x 5
BW x 4
BW x 3
As always alot of work in a short timeframe. Good job. I was wondering 2 things.
1) Whats your diet like - it seems like you are trying to shed abit of weight?
2) Are you planning on micro-microloading? I seem to recall that last time you even went to 2.5lb jumps on squats, in stead of going to intermediate programming, whereas most will switch over when workout to workout progress is no longer possible with 5 lb jumps (or 2.5 lb in case of bench/press).
Thanks, Viking.
1. I am working on losing weight. On most days I am keeping myself below 2400-2500 calories and making sure I get 225-250 grams of protein.
2. I am planning on going to smaller jumps. I have a set each of 1.25, 1.0, .75, .50, & .25 lb plates. I am going to go to smaller jumps than 2.5 lbs on the press so that I can continue to progress. I am actually closing in on a 3x5 PR if I can push it a few more workouts without resetting.
I did go lower on my jumps on my last run than most people do, but I was still adding 7.5 lbs a week to my squat after I reset. I went right past where I had stalled and added another 40 lbs. As long as you can keep adding weight to the bar, even if it is only a few lbs a workout, you can still make faster gains on LP than any other scheme of progression.
I think most people get in a hurry to get off of LP and do so too soon. One reason is that people don't want to be a novice. I think that another reason is that it just gets too brutal for some folks to keep getting under the bar when they are up against the wall every day.
I usually keep my opinions to myself, but in my opinion, a lot of the conventional wisdom that gets bantered about isn't always so wise. A lot of people would make a lot more progress on LP if they would shut up, show some testicular fortitude, and get under the bar.
A lot of people would make a lot more progress on LP if they would shut up, show some testicular fortitude, and get under the bar.
This is no doubt true.
That said there are nuances. Some people (like me) keep banging their heads against the wall on LP, where a switch to intermediate, even if it is only at say a 315 squat, would've been wiser. I have it the other way around - I'd like to continue on LP, in order to somehow prove that I am more genetically gifted than I really am. I'm getting smarter, though.
Tad_T
09-07-2011, 05:46 PM
It can go that way, too. I am not saying that it can't. And what I am saying is not about you. I only know for sure how it has worked for me in the past.
But a lot of people don't want to go slow or to lift weight that they have already lifted.
Say someone stalls at 345 on squat. Then they reset to 315 and halve their jumps to 2.5 lbs. It will take them a month to get back to where they stalled. Most folks do not want to do that. They want to drop the weight, double the jumps, and get right back to where they stalled so that they can stall again.
If they would stay with the smaller jump, they would go right past 345 where they stalled and maybe be able to push it even further, say something like 385. Of course that would take another 5 weeks or so, but then they would have gotten another 10 weeks of LP.
The reset allows them to recover and the load is still relatively heavy. By the time they get to the stall weight they are stronger and can keep pushing.
But everyone else says, "Oh don't go to those small jumps, go intermediate." Then TM or 5x5 kills them and they wonder why.
I know this because I have done these things and made these mistakes. I might make new mistakes, but I try not to make the same ones twice. I'll make the smaller jumps. When they don't work anymore I will try something else and keep pushing it as far as I can before I give up on LP.
Tad_T
09-08-2011, 01:47 PM
Thursday, 8 September 2011
Workout # 36
Start: 0825 Finish: 0923
BW = 247
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
310 x 5
310 x 5
310 x 5
Press
45 x 5
95 x 3
135 x 1
154 x 5
154 x 5
154 x 5
Rows
45 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 1
220 x 5
220 x 5
220 x 5
Dips
BW x 9
BW x 9
BW x 9
I broke out the smaller plates for press. I am going to stay with the small jumps and see if I can keep squeaking out progress on that lift.
I might make new mistakes, but I try not to make the same ones twice.
That's what I find too. Once you squat three plates, it's extremely individual what is the best road to further progress. Interestingly, I've also found that stuff that worked for me once (Bill Starrs 5x5), doesn't work right now. What external factors that might've caused it, I'm not sure. But you need to start thinking once you get to that point - which is were alot of people, myself included - fuck it up.
In any case I'm pretty sure that you're some way out from truly stalling.
Tom Narvaez
09-09-2011, 02:57 PM
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Tad_T
09-12-2011, 11:28 PM
Thanks for the kind words, Tom.
Tad_T
09-12-2011, 11:36 PM
Monday, 12 Sep, 2011
Workout # 37
Start: 1439 Finish: 1532
BW = 246
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
315 x 5
315 x 5
315 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 1
225 x 5
225 x 5
225 x 5
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
315 x 1
365 x 5
Chin-Ups
BW x 5
BW x 4
BW x 3
I am in Tacoma, WA right now for work. I am working at Ft. Lewis doing VA and Vet Center outreach with the 116th Cavalry who just returned from Iraq.
3 plate squat and a 2 plate bench is always a good indicator of being back to somewhere around "decent" strength, even though you probably still have quite abit left in the tank. Good work.
Tad_T
09-14-2011, 11:52 PM
Wednesday, 14 September 2011
Workout # 38
Start: 0940 Finish: 1032
BW = 246
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
320 x 5
320 x 5
320 x 5
Press
45 x 5
95 x 3
115 x 2
135 x 1
156 x 5
156 x 5
156 x 4 <--- Fail. Will reset to 140 on Workout #40.
Rows
45 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 1
225 x 5
225 x 5
225 x 5
Dips
BW x 10
BW x 9
BW x 7
Thanks, Viking. I am starting to feel a little better. I have been off of the Coumadin for a week now. I am also not feeling so much like I am waving the pink dumbbells around.
Tad_T
09-17-2011, 02:03 AM
Friday, 16 Sep, 2011
Workout # 39
Start: 1745 Finish: 1842
BW = 246
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
325 x 5
325 x 5
325 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 1
230 x 5
230 x 5
230x 5
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
315 x 1
375 x 5
Chin-Ups
BW x 5
BW x 4
BW x 4
Still in Tacoma, WA, working at Ft. Lewis. The Army has nice gyms.
I felt good about this workout. It is taking me a little longer to complete because I have extended my rest periods to three minutes between all work sets. It is starting to get a little harder now.
Still all that work in less than an hour is pretty good in my book. Seems things are moving along nicely.
Tad_T
09-17-2011, 01:35 PM
Thanks, Viking.
I'm not displeased with my progress or the length of the workout. I think I still have some room on most of my lifts before I am going to have to change up much or reset anything besides the press. I am going to reset the press to 140 lbs tomorrow and go to 2 lb jumps and start working back up.
Tad_T
09-18-2011, 10:19 PM
Sunday, 18 September 2011
Workout # 40
Start: 1555 Finish: 1649
BW = 246
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
330 x 5
330 x 5
330 x 5
Press - Reset to 140 from 156 on Workout #40.
45 x 5
95 x 3
115 x 2
140 x 5
140 x 5
140 x 5
Rows
45 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 2
230 x 5
230 x 5
230 x 5
Dips
BW x 10
BW x 9
BW x 9
I felt like this was a good workout even though this was my first reset on this cycle. Every thing else improved. I will use 2 lb jumps for press and work back up.
Tad_T
09-27-2011, 12:33 PM
Tuesday, 27 Sep, 2011
Workout # 41
Start: 0917 Finish: 1014
BW = 247
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
315 x 1
335 x 5
335 x 5
335 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 1
235 x 5
235 x 5
235 x 5
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
315 x 1
385 x 5
Chin-Ups
BW x 5
BW x 4
BW x 3
Because of work, travel, and family obligations, I went much longer between workouts than I wanted to. Now I am home. I went on and did my next scheduled workout and got everything except for improving on chin-ups. I will be getting back to my regularly scheduled program.
Tad_T
09-29-2011, 10:16 AM
Thursday, 29 September 2011
Workout # 42
Start: 0903 Finish: 1002
BW = 247
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
315 x 1
340 x 5
340 x 5
340 x 5
Press - Reset to 140 from 156 on Workout #40.
45 x 5
95 x 3
115 x 2
142 x 5
142 x 5
142 x 5
Rows
45 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 2
235 x 5
235 x 5
235 x 5
Dips
BW x 10
BW x 9
BW x 7
You took almost an hour this time. You are starting to seem abit more human :)
Good work in any case, the squat is getting up there.
Tad_T
10-02-2011, 01:27 PM
Sunday, 2 October 2011
Workout # 43
Start: 1208 Finish: 1309
BW = 248
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
315 x 1
345 x 5
345 x 5
345 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 1
225 x 1
240 x 5
240 x 5
240 x 5
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
315 x 1
365 x 1
395 x 5
Chin-Ups
BW x 5
BW x 4
BW x 3
Tad_T
10-02-2011, 01:30 PM
You took almost an hour this time. You are starting to seem abit more human :)
Good work in any case, the squat is getting up there.
Thanks, Viking.
Things are starting to get/feel heavy. I have added in some additional warm ups and I am taking a little more rest between work sets. Due to all of that, it is taking me a little longer.
Thanks, Viking.
Things are starting to get/feel heavy. I have added in some additional warm ups and I am taking a little more rest between work sets. Due to all of that, it is taking me a little longer.
They'd better be getting heavy, otherwise there's no justice in the world :)
What do you do for warmups - apart from warmup sets?
Tad_T
10-06-2011, 10:53 PM
Thursday, 6 October 2011
Workout # 44
Start: 0937 Finish: 1008
BW = 248
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
315 x 1
350 x 5
350 x 5
350 x 5
Press - Reset to 140 from 156 on Workout #40.
45 x 5
95 x 3
135 x 1
144 x 5
144 x 5
144 x 5
I have been trying to fight off a stomach bug since Sunday night. Then I got called to go in early today and had to cut short my workout. At least I got my squats and press in today.
My schedule is all screwed up.
Tad_T
10-06-2011, 10:56 PM
They'd better be getting heavy, otherwise there's no justice in the world :)
What do you do for warmups - apart from warmup sets?
Five minutes on the lifecycle or the dreadmill then a set of back extensions and a set of sit-ups on the slant board.
Tad_T
10-06-2011, 11:36 PM
Last year on 6 October I suffered a pulmonary embolism and like to have died at age 46.
It is pretty cool to still be alive and able to lift. I might even make it to 48 in a couple of months :
Tad_T
10-09-2011, 12:18 PM
Saturday, 8 October 2011
Workout # 45
Start: 1511 Finish: 1607
BW = 248
Squat
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
315 x 1
355 x 5
355 x 5
355 x 5
Bench
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 1
225 x 1
245 x 5
245 x 5
245 x 3 <-- Fail
Deadlift
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
315 x 1
365 x 1
405 x 1 <-- Fail
Chin-Ups
BW x 5
BW x 4
BW x 3
This was not a good day in the gym for me. :(
I figured this would come sooner or later since I am closing in on all my old PRs.
I almost missed my last rep on each of the last two sets of squats. I struggled on the second set of bench and blew the third set. I just couldn't pull the dead off of the floor for the second rep.
My schedule has been screwed up for the past couple of weeks and I was sick with some kind of bug for the last week.
I am going to reset with a 10% drop on squat, bench, and deadlift. I'll split my jumps and just continue to progress.
If you do things By The Book, you'd try again. I'd think that the above is just due to RL issues, such as the bug etc. However I also reset "early" sometimes, you know your body, and also that patience+persistence=progress!
It's good to some times put things in perspective. From near fatal illness to 405 deadlift - that's quite abit of difference.
Tad_T
10-10-2011, 09:11 PM
If you do things By The Book, you'd try again. I'd think that the above is just due to RL issues, such as the bug etc. However I also reset "early" sometimes, you know your body, and also that patience+persistence=progress!
It's good to some times put things in perspective. From near fatal illness to 405 deadlift - that's quite abit of difference.
Yes, if I went by the book, I guess that I would fail again before I reset, but I am not a skinny 18 year old failing on 215 and thinking that I am an intermediate either.
I am actually pretty pleased with how far I came in 45 workouts. And I am right close to where I finished Starting Strength when I ran first ran it and am very close to 3x5 PRs.
My previous 3x5 RMs were Squat 365, Bench 242.5, Press 155, and 1x5 on Deadlift for 415.
I plan on doing this reset, going to a form of advanced novice programming and beating all of those previous PRs.
From almost dying to almost being back to where I was, I am pretty happy.
Thanks for the encouragement and the perspective.
Tad_T
10-11-2011, 11:21 AM
Tuesday, 11 October 2011
Workout # 46
Start: 0907 Finish: 0953
BW = 249
As I said in my previous post I am going to change up my programming some.
Squat - Reset to 320 from 355 on Workout 46.
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
320 x 5
320 x 5
320 x 5
Press - Reset to 140 from 156 on Workout #40.
45 x 5
95 x 3
135 x 1
146 x 5
146 x 5
146 x 5
Chin-ups
BW x 5
BW x 4
BW x 4
Decline Situps
BW x 10
BW x 10
BW x 10
Tom Narvaez
10-11-2011, 11:34 AM
Hey Tad,
I'm sure you've explained this one place or another, by why do you do dips and rows on press day? I'm not talking about exercise selection, but rather placement.
shaddix
10-11-2011, 01:31 PM
How for you do these so fast? I am doing untrained level of weight and I take about twice as long as you
Tad_T
10-12-2011, 04:59 PM
Hey Tad,
I'm sure you've explained this one place or another, by why do you do dips and rows on press day? I'm not talking about exercise selection, but rather placement.
Hey Izzy,
The reason that I was doing the dips on press day, was because I did not want to do them on bench day. Even though the press is a core lift it is not as stressful on the upper body as bench. So I did the press first, did another exercise and then finished up with dips.
I did the rows on press day because I was not doing a pull on that day. Bench day was also deadlift day and chin-up day.
I tried to balance the load and the movements between my A&B workouts and do all of the exercises that I wanted to do.
Does that answer your question?
Tad_T
10-12-2011, 05:03 PM
How for you do these so fast? I am doing untrained level of weight and I take about twice as long as you
Hi shaddix,
Rest periods between sets is a variable that can be manipulated and trained. I rarely take more than three minutes rest between sets. When I finish a set, I write down my reps in my log and hit the stopwatch for my rest period. When it gets to three minutes, I am usually getting under the bar.
Tom Narvaez
10-13-2011, 12:21 AM
Does that answer your question?
Yup, thanks.
It is interesting to me because it would seem that by adding dips and rows to B day, B day goes from having some built-in recovery for your chest and lower back to rather thoroughly taxing them on both days.
Rows and dips are among the movements I'd like to add once I get to more advanced programming and it is interesting to see where people place them.
Tad_T
10-13-2011, 11:25 AM
Tuesday, 11 October 2011
Workout # 47
Start: 0924 Finish: 1007
BW = 247
Squat - Reset to 320 from 355 on Workout #46.
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
255 x 5
255 x 5
Bench - Reset to 225 from 245 on Workout #47.
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 5
225 x 5
225 x 5
Deadlift - Reset to 365 from 405 on Workout #47
135 x 5
225 x 2
315 x 1
365 x 5
Dips
BW x 10
BW x 9
BW x 6
Decline Situps
BW x 10
BW x 10
BW x 10
Looking good, Tad. How often are you deadlifting now? Only on light squat day?
Tad_T
10-13-2011, 09:56 PM
Looking good, Tad. How often are you deadlifting now? Only on light squat day?
Thanks, Viking.
That is my plan. Deadlift once a week on light squat day.
Tad_T
10-13-2011, 10:22 PM
Yup, thanks.
It is interesting to me because it would seem that by adding dips and rows to B day, B day goes from having some built-in recovery for your chest and lower back to rather thoroughly taxing them on both days.
Rows and dips are among the movements I'd like to add once I get to more advanced programming and it is interesting to see where people place them.
Glad to be of help. I went 45 workouts on that scheme so I don't think that it had too much of a negative effect.
Glad to be of help. I went 45 workouts on that scheme so I don't think that it had too much of a negative effect.
It's really one of those YMMV-things, I think. And also it's because you are a strong guy regaining his strength, so you can get away with abit more work.
At least that's what I tell myself when I spend the same amount of time doing about half the work you do - and I'm 15 years younger!
Tad_T
10-14-2011, 07:05 PM
I reckon that everyone's mileage varies.
I try to only speak to what I have found that works for me. With a sample of one, I do not try to overgeneralize my experience to the population at large.
Tad_T
10-15-2011, 02:24 PM
Saturday, 15 October 2011
Workout # 48
Start: 0930 Finish: 1019
BW = 247
Squat - Reset to 320 from 355 on Workout #46.
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
322.5 x 5
322.5 x 5
322.5 x 5
Press - Reset to 140 from 156 on Workout #40.
45 x 5
95 x 3
135 x 1
148 x 5
148 x 5
148 x 5
Rows -Reset to 225 from 245 on Workout #48.
45 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 5
225 x 5
225 x 5
Decline Situps
BW x 10
BW x 10
BW x 10
Adding 2.5lbs to your squats again. That's patience. Looking forward to seeing how far you get on this scheme. Theoretically TM would be just as fast with 5 lbs/week- but it's a matter of taste I guess?
Tad_T
10-15-2011, 03:52 PM
But I ain't about fast.
I really don't think that I have exhausted how far that I can go on linear progression. I had built up a lot of fatigue. I was sore all of the time and slammed the wall and starting failing on everything. I agree with you that my schedule being screwed up by work, travel, and being sick was a major contributing factor.
So I basically did a global reset which really equals an undulating cycle at this point. I dropped ~10% on everything so I am still working within 10% of my current 5RM. My intent is to let my recovery catch up while I build back up. I can already tell the difference in how I feel and it has only been a week.
I have never really tried the advanced novice type of SS programming. It seems to be a bridge between SS and TM. There wasn't such a thing when I ran SS before. I figured I would give it a try.
I honestly don't get the fascination with fast. With where I am at, I think steady is better.
I honestly don't get the fascination with fast. With where I am at, I think steady is better.
Definitely. However it's less mentally taxing - to me - to have volume/intensity days and add 5 lbs/week, than have 3 heavy sets across 2x a week, and still only add 5 lbs/week. But I'm probably just a pussy.
Tad_T
10-16-2011, 05:39 PM
Definitely. However it's less mentally taxing - to me - to have volume/intensity days and add 5 lbs/week, than have 3 heavy sets across 2x a week, and still only add 5 lbs/week. But I'm probably just a pussy.
I'm thinking that you are not a pussy, my friend.
I can understand the mentally taxing part. There comes a time when you start thinking, "Man, I just don't want to get under that bar." And you are sore and hurting. That is when you know that you are starting to overrun your recovery. That is basically where I was at. That is why I did the reset. I'll still be getting solid work in and when I get built back up to where I was, I'll keep on creeping. When I run out of that, it'll be time to try something else.
I'm thinking that you are not a pussy, my friend.
I can understand the mentally taxing part. There comes a time when you start thinking, "Man, I just don't want to get under that bar." And you are sore and hurting. That is when you know that you are starting to overrun your recovery. That is basically where I was at. That is why I did the reset. I'll still be getting solid work in and when I get built back up to where I was, I'll keep on creeping. When I run out of that, it'll be time to try something else.
Thanks for the confidence, but I'm not so sure. As soon as I get past 315 it's always with slight trepidation that I get under the bar. And in that sense I find it mentally easier with TM. Different strokes and all that. In any case it's good to see that you're headed where you want to be. If I lift like you at 48, I'll be pretty damned happy.
Tad_T
10-18-2011, 10:11 AM
Tuesday, 18 October 2011
Workout # 49
Start: 0906 Finish: 0951
BW = 248
Squat - Reset to 320 from 355 on Workout 46.
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
325 x 5
325 x 5
325 x 5
Bench - Reset to 225 from 245 on Workout #47.
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 1
227.5 x 5
227.5 x 5
227.5 x 5
Chin-ups
BW x 5
BW x 5
BW x 4
Decline Situps
BW x 10
BW x 10
BW x 10
Tad_T
10-19-2011, 09:18 AM
Definitely. However it's less mentally taxing - to me - to have volume/intensity days and add 5 lbs/week, than have 3 heavy sets across 2x a week, and still only add 5 lbs/week.
You know, I was thinking about this. I am sure that there is a physical recovery piece to this, but I believe you are right about the mental/psychological part, too. When you look at it, if you are on TM doing 5's on I day, you are squatting the same number of sets and reps as you are on SS advanced novice. The loading is a little different, but I bet that overall the total volume is not that much different.
And even if I am adding smaller increments, I am still doing more than I was. So that means I am still progressing. As long as I am, I am good with that.
I am also still considering exactly what kind of program I want to do next. It will be a few months before I really have to worry about it, but I have been thinking.
Tad_T
10-20-2011, 09:26 AM
Thursday, 20 October 2011
Workout # 50
Start: 0824 Finish: 0912
BW = 247
Squat - Reset to 320 from 355 on Workout #46.
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
260 x 5
260 x 5
Press - Reset to 140 from 156 on Workout #40.
45 x 5
95 x 3
135 x 1
150 x 5
150 x 5
150 x 5
Deadlift - Reset to 365 from 405 on Workout #47
135 x 5
225 x 2
315 x 1
370 x 5
Dips
BW x 10
BW x 9
BW x 9
Decline Situps
BW x 10
BW x 10
BW x 10
When you look at it, if you are on TM doing 5's on I day, you are squatting the same number of sets and reps as you are on SS advanced novice. The loading is a little different, but I bet that overall the total volume is not that much different.
As you know I also like to look at things in terms of total tonnage. And I think you are right about this. 325x5x6= 9750 lbs. 325x5 + 295x5x5 = 9000 lbs. Once I get past 315, it's alot "easier" for me to have one fucker of a day (volume) and then the rest are bearable, in stead of two days with heavy sets across. But the total weight lifted is pretty close.
Tad_T
10-25-2011, 01:39 PM
Had a short notice have-to-leave-to-work-out-of-town thing. Left Friday Morning, got back Sunday night. Kids sick Monday. Missed a workout.
Picking it back up.
Tuesday, 25 October 2011
Workout # 51
Start: 1237 Finish: 1326
BW = 248
Squat - Reset to 320 from 355 on Workout 46.
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
327.5 x 5
327.5 x 5
327.5 x 5
Bench - Reset to 225 from 245 on Workout #47.
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 1
230 x 5
230 x 5
230 x 5
Chin-ups
BW x 5
BW x 5
BW x 5
Decline Situps
+5 x 10
+5 x 10
+5 x 10
Tad_T
10-27-2011, 03:52 PM
Thursday, 27 October 2011
Workout # 52
Start: 1451 Finish: 1538
BW = 246
Squat - Reset to 320 from 355 on Workout #46.
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
265 x 5
265 x 5
Press - Reset to 140 from 156 on Workout #40.
45 x 5
95 x 3
135 x 1
152 x 5
152 x 5
152 x 5
Deadlift - Reset to 365 from 405 on Workout #47
135 x 5
225 x 2
315 x 1
375 x 5
Dips
BW x 10
BW x 10
BW x 7
Decline Situps
+5 x 10
+5 x 10
+5 x 10
Good job adding weight, even though you missed a workout. I'm having a lot of scheduling issues lately as well, sucks, but work brings in the dough and family is... well, family.
Deadlift is closing in on those 4 plates, also nice to see someone doing as "little" warmup for those as I do.
Tad_T
10-29-2011, 02:19 PM
Saturday, 25 October 2011
Workout # 53
Start: 1301 Finish: 1359
BW = 248
Squat - Reset to 320 from 355 on Workout 46.
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
330 x 5
330 x 5
330 x 5
Bench - Reset to 225 from 245 on Workout #47.
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 1
230 x 5
230 x 5
230 x 5
Rows -Reset to 225 from 245 on Workout #48.
45 x 5
135 x 5
227.5 x 5
227.5 x 5
227.5 x 5
Decline Situps
+5 x 10
+5 x 10
+5 x 10
Tad_T
11-01-2011, 12:57 PM
Tuesday, 1 October 2011
Workout # 54
Start: 0917 Finish: 1006
BW = 249
Squat - Reset to 320 from 355 on Workout 46.
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
332.5 x 5
332.5 x 5
332.5 x 5
Press - Reset to 140 from 156 on Workout #40.
45 x 5
95 x 3
135 x 1
154 x 5
154 x 5
154 x 5
Chin-ups
BW x 6
BW x 5
BW x 4
Decline Situps
+5 x 10
+5 x 10
+5 x 10
Things are getting up there again. Good work. Seems your chinning is improving a bit as well?
What do you do for supps? Do you subscribe to Starr's shovel method, or just some multi+C+fish oil?
Tad_T
11-01-2011, 07:55 PM
I'm slowly working my way back up. You know my philosophy, as long as it is more, it is progress.
I suck at chins, but I have added a couple. Progress is slow on them for me.
I kind of shovel the supplements. This is what I take daily.
Creatine
Multivitamin / Multimineral
B complex
C
E
Fish Oil
Flax Oil
Calcium
Potassium
Magnesium
Zinc
Glucosamine Chrondroitin
Tad_T
11-03-2011, 10:30 AM
Thursday, 3 November 2011
Workout # 55
Start: 0926 Finish: 1019
BW = 248
Squat - Reset to 320 from 355 on Workout #46.
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
267.5 x 5
267.5 x 5
Bench - Reset to 225 from 245 on Workout #47.
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 1
235 x 5
235 x 5
235 x 5
Deadlift - Reset to 365 from 405 on Workout #47
135 x 5
225 x 2
315 x 1
380 x 5
Dips
BW x 10
BW x 10
BW x 10
Decline Situps
+5 x 10
+5 x 10
+5 x 10
I kind of shovel the supplements. This is what I take daily.
Creatine
Multivitamin / Multimineral
B complex
C
E
Fish Oil
Flax Oil
Calcium
Potassium
Magnesium
Zinc
Glucosamine Chrondroitin
That's pretty close to the Starr-method, yeah. I need to get some more minerals as well. I have a feeling potassium would help my energy levels some. Do you cycle creatine, or just take 5g/day?
Tad_T
11-03-2011, 11:46 PM
No, sir. I don't cycle the creatine. I just throw a scoop in my breakfast shake every morning.
Tad_T
11-06-2011, 06:54 PM
I was working out of town again this weekend. I got my supposed to be Saturday workout in when I got home this evening.
Sunday, 6 November 2011
Workout # 56
Start: 1718 Finish: 1810
BW = 248
Squat - Reset to 320 from 355 on Workout 46.
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
315 x 1
335 x 5
335 x 5
335 x 5
Press - Reset to 140 from 156 on Workout #40.
45 x 5
95 x 3
135 x 1
156 x 5
156 x 5
156 x 5 <-- 3x5 PR.
Rows -Reset to 225 from 245 on Workout #48.
45 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
230 x 5
230 x 5
230 x 5
Decline Situps
+5 x 10
+5 x 10
+5 x 10
Nice PR! That squat is getting heavy as well. Traveling can really fuck up your progression, good job keeping it up.
Tad_T
11-08-2011, 10:25 AM
Tuesday, 8 November 2011
Workout # 57
Start: 0912 Finish: 1004
BW = 248
Squat - Reset to 320 from 355 on Workout 46.
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
315 x 1
337.5 x 5
337.5 x 5
337.5 x 5
Bench - Reset to 225 from 245 on Workout #47.
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 1
225 x 1
237.5 x 5
237.5 x 5
237.5 x 5
Chin-ups
BW x 6
BW x 5
BW x 4
Decline Situps
+7.5 x 10
+7.5 x 10
+7.5 x 10
Tad_T
11-08-2011, 01:05 PM
Nice PR! That squat is getting heavy as well. Traveling can really fuck up your progression, good job keeping it up.
Thanks, Vike.
You know, after reading all that stuff about the press and the 3rd Edition of SS, I kind of feel compelled to clarify how I press. I know that I am not a great presser, nor do I claim to be. After having had a shoulder reconstruction I am glad to be able to press, bench press, and row at all.
I was taught and coached to press what Rip called a very strict Two Handed Press in the 1st edition of SS. That is still what I do. No kick. No hip drive. No bounce. No dip. No push. Minimal layback. Just enough to keep from hitting myself in the chin or nose. And yes, I have hit myself before. It is not a military press because, from the very strict definition, to do one of those you have to be standing at the military position of attention with your heels together and your feet at a 45 degree angle. I have my feet about shoulder width apart and I press pretty much exactly like Rip teaches in the 1st Edition.
I was taught that anything else is cheating and is not a strict press. If I do any of those things, I do not count that rep. That is just me. I don't care how anyone else presses, I am going to keep pressing the way that I was taught. It doesn't hurt my shoulder or my back and it strengthens the movement and muscles that it is intended to.
I also don't and won't try to compare my press to anyone else's without knowing how they press. I will wonder how strict of a press they do and how much they could press with strict form. I am sure that I could do all of those other things and move more weight. But then I would not be training a strict press and strengthening the target muscles that I want to.
And the way that I was taught, it's cheating. For me. And I refuse to cheat. Myself. I always remember Coach McMurray, Coach Smith, and Coach Myers saying in the weight room and on the practice field, "If you cheat, you're not cheating me. You're just cheating yourself."
I am sure that I will buy Rip's new book and read it, but I am not sure that I am going to change the way that I press.
slowjoe
11-08-2011, 03:08 PM
Thanks, Vike.
You know, after reading all that stuff about the press and the 3rd Edition of SS, I kind of feel compelled to clarify how I press. I know that I am not a great presser, nor do I claim to be. After having had a shoulder reconstruction I am glad to be able to press, bench press, and row at all.
I was taught and coached to press what Rip called a very strict Two Handed Press in the 1st edition of SS. That is still what I do. No kick. No hip drive. No bounce. No dip. No push. Minimal layback. Just enough to keep from hitting myself in the chin or nose. And yes, I have hit myself before. It is not a military press because, from the very strict definition, to do one of those you have to be standing at the military position of attention with your heels together and your feet at a 45 degree angle. I have my feet about shoulder width apart and I press pretty much exactly like Rip teaches in the 1st Edition.
I was taught that anything else is cheating and is not a strict press. If I do any of those things, I do not count that rep. That is just me. I don't care how anyone else presses, I am going to keep pressing the way that I was taught. It doesn't hurt my shoulder or my back and it strengthens the movement and muscles that it is intended to.
I also don't and won't try to compare my press to anyone else's without knowing how they press. I will wonder how strict of a press they do and how much they could press with strict form. I am sure that I could do all of those other things and move more weight. But then I would not be training a strict press and strengthening the target muscles that I want to.
And the way that I was taught, it's cheating. For me. And I refuse to cheat. Myself. I always remember Coach McMurray, Coach Smith, and Coach Myers saying in the weight room and on the practice field, "If you cheat, you're not cheating me. You're just cheating yourself."
I am sure that I will buy Rip's new book and read it, but I am not sure that I am going to change the way that I press.
I like what I hear. My press (such as it is) has a certain amount of layback due to shoulder flexibility issues (there's a triceps stretch where you put you hand down your back: I can still see my elbow with my opposite eye when I try that), but the motive force is 110% arm and shoulder. I do a lift with hip and knee assistance: I call it the push-press.
There's room for an extra exercise, and you can call it the Russian press or the SS3 press or whatever, but I've been lifting my way for 3 years (and you a darn sight longer). I'm quite happy to have an additional exercise in my arsenal that I keep in that special place with the triceps pushdowns and the lateral raises and anything with "curl" in the name.
But please, don't call them presses, please, don't ask me to do them.
I do abit of layback, as otherwise I cant get the bar further down than *just* under my chin. With abit of layback I can hit my chest. I have very inflexible shoulders, and dumb humerus-forearm proportions.
I honestly don't find that it is alot easier (or harder) with abit of layback, however it allows me more ROM. I am sure that the Olympic style Press Rip is now recommending is different. And like you, unless I do it for kicks, I dont really feel compelled to changing too much, as what I am doing currently works quite well.
I really hope that the press doesnt turn into another squat thing, where the tiniest minutiae cause disputes akin to religious wars (over bar placement, depth, stance, hands etc. etc.). As long as you are pressing (and squatting) with full ROM, then you're probably fine.
Tad_T
11-10-2011, 09:01 AM
Thursday, 10 November 2011
Workout # 58
Start: 0715 Finish: 0811
BW = 250
Squat - Reset to 320 from 355 on Workout #46.
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
270 x 5
270 x 5
Press - Reset to 140 from 156 on Workout #40.
45 x 5
95 x 3
135 x 1
158 x 5
158 x 5
158 x 5 <-- 3x5 PR.
Deadlift - Reset to 365 from 405 on Workout #47
135 x 5
225 x 2
315 x 1
385 x 5
Dips
+5 x 10
+5 x 10
+5 x 8
Decline Situps
+7.5 x 10
+7.5 x 10
+7.5 x 10
Tad_T
11-10-2011, 09:13 AM
But please, don't call them presses, please, don't ask me to do them.
And like you, unless I do it for kicks, I dont really feel compelled to changing too much, as what I am doing currently works quite well.
Exactly.
I really hope that the press doesnt turn into another squat thing, where the tiniest minutiae cause disputes akin to religious wars (over bar placement, depth, stance, hands etc. etc.). As long as you are pressing (and squatting) with full ROM, then you're probably fine.
It already has. There are already two threads full of disciples, naysayers, and idiots fighting it out over the press.
Anyone that has been around and followed the development of the whole Starting Strength thing and that has any memory and critical thinking skills can see what has happened and where it came from.
And if you don't change something, you can't have a 3rd Edition, now can you?
Exactly.
It already has. There are already two threads full of disciples, naysayers, and idiots fighting it out over the press.
Anyone that has been around and followed the development of the whole Starting Strength thing and that has any memory and critical thinking skills can see what has happened and where it came from.
And if you don't change something, you can't have a 3rd Edition, now can you?
I'm not sure that the new style is a marketing trick, to be honest. But I could be wrong. I'll buy it in any case, as more quality information on training is worth alot for me, as discussed earlier regarding E-books.
I think it's just the nature of the internet. People looove to argue.
Tad_T
11-15-2011, 10:14 AM
Had to work this past weekend again. Then when I got home we had an electrical short in the light switch in one of the kids bedrooms. I had to find and fix that. So I wound up missing my weekend workout. Picking it back up.
Tuesday, 15 November 2011
Workout # 59
Start: 0901 Finish: 0951
BW = 248
Squat - Reset to 320 from 355 on Workout 46.
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
315 x 1
340 x 5
340 x 5
340 x 5
Bench - Reset to 225 from 245 on Workout #47.
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 1
225 x 1
240 x 5
240 x 5
240 x 5
Chin-ups
BW x 6
BW x 5
BW x 5
Decline Situps
+7.5 x 10
+7.5 x 10
+7.5 x 10
Tad_T
11-17-2011, 09:55 AM
Thursday, 10 November 2011
Workout # 60
Start: 0853 Finish: 0933
BW = 248
Squat - Reset to 320 from 355 on Workout #46.
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
272 x 5
272 x 5
Press - Reset to 140 from 156 on Workout #40.
45 x 5
95 x 3
135 x 1
160 x 5
160 x 5
160 x 5 <-- 3x5 PR.
Deadlift - Reset to 365 from 405 on Workout #47
135 x 5
225 x 2
315 x 1
390 x 5
I have to go in to work early today, so I had to cut my workout short after my core lifts.
Tad_T
11-17-2011, 09:57 AM
I'm not sure that the new style is a marketing trick, to be honest. But I could be wrong. I'll buy it in any case...
I don't think so either, about changing the style of the press. I don't think that is why he changed how he presses.
I'm sure I will buy it, too.
slowjoe
11-17-2011, 10:11 AM
160 x 5
160 x 5
160 x 5 <-- 3x5 PR.
Tank keeps rolling. Nice.
Tad_T
11-17-2011, 01:00 PM
Thanks, Joe.
During my warmup, I tried the Rip Press, from how I understand it, reading the excerpt and watching that Gillian video. It felt really awkward to me.
On the worksets, I just stuck with what I know. I did a strict press.
I don't think so either, about changing the style of the press. I don't think that is why he changed how he presses.
I'm sure I will buy it, too.
Right, I misunderstood your post then. I guess I'm not adept at critical thinking :)
I'm tempted to try out the OL-press as well, but I'll watch the vids with Suggs first.
Tad_T
11-18-2011, 10:10 AM
From the excerpts, the 3rd Ed seems to be a significant re-write. I'm looking forward to reading it.
Tad_T
11-18-2011, 10:17 AM
Right, I misunderstood your post then. I guess I'm not adept at critical thinking :)
I did kind of run my thoughts together.
Tad_T
11-22-2011, 10:18 AM
I know that this is starting to look like a habit with me missing my weekend workout, but that is definitely not my intent. I am really upset with myself for tweaking my back last Thursday on my last rep of deadlifts. I was thinking about the new excerpt on pulling mechanics instead of maintaining my concentration. Even though 390 is not that heavy, a split second lapse was all it took.
I skipped my weekend workout on purpose. I did warmups and one set of ~80% today on squats. I am going to do two sets Thursday and we'll see where I am then.
Tuesday, 22 November 2011
Workout # 61
Start: 0903. Finish: 0941
BW = 247
Squat - Reset to 320 from 355 on Workout 46.
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 5
Bench - Reset to 225 from 245 on Workout #47.
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 1
225 x 1
242.5 x 5
242.5 x 5
242.5 x 5
Chin-ups
BW x 6
BW x 6
BW x 5
There are some points where things just come together to mess with your gym-time. The important thing is that you make it there when you can, and keep progressing from there. A couple of weeks of little progress due to this stuff is insignificant in the bigger picture.
And that's a decent amount of chins, when comparing with your previous workouts. What is your PR on those?
Tad_T
11-22-2011, 11:07 PM
Yes, sir, life happens and sometimes it gets in your way.
The only thing that bothers me about this is that it was preventable. I know better than to not attend to what I am doing.
But I am not going to make it worse. I skipped a workout and I am going to take it easy on squats and deads this week as a rehab/recovery/deload. I actually feel much better tonight and did all day. I think everything is going to be just fine and I can start back up next week.
As far as the chins, that actually ties my PR. When I get 6 across, that will be a new PR.
Thanks for checking in on me. I know it is not your holiday, but I will wish you and yours a Happy Thanksgiving, anyway.
Thanks for checking in on me. I know it is not your holiday, but I will wish you and yours a Happy Thanksgiving, anyway.
Cheers, to you as well. I have some American friends here - actually military guys - and was bandying around the idea of having Thanksgiving dinner with them. But it turns out they are all heading back to the States, which I guess is understandable.
Once in my life I'd like to try a real Thanksgiving dinner. I have a feeling it will instantly add 10 lbs to my squat (and 5 to my gut).
Tad_T
11-24-2011, 03:32 PM
Thursday, 24 November 2011
Workout # 62
Start: 1223 Finish: 1315
BW = 248
Squat - Reset to 320 from 355 on Workout #46.
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 5
275 x 5
Press - Reset to 140 from 156 on Workout #40.
45 x 5
95 x 3
135 x 1
162 x 5 <-- 5RM PR
162 x 5
162 x 5 <-- 3x5 PR.
Deadlift - Reset to 365 from 405 on Workout #47
135 x 5
225 x 2
315 x 5
Dips
+5 x 10
+5 x 10
+5 x 9
I did 2 sets at ~80% of my last 3x5 on squats and 1 set of 5 at ~80% on deadlifts. My back is still sore from tweaking it, but it feels a lot better than it did.
Right now I am planning on doing 3x5 with 275 for squats on Saturday and then if everything is OK, I will start back up on Tuesday.
slowjoe
11-24-2011, 04:06 PM
Resetting seems to agree with your press.
Happy Thanksgiving, Tank.
Tad_T
11-24-2011, 08:58 PM
Thanks, Joe.
The press is going pretty well right now. I am going to stick with the 2 lb jumps as long as I can keep making them. Then I will probably go to 1 lb jumps and see if I can keep it moving.
Tad_T
11-27-2011, 01:41 PM
Sunday, 27 November 2011
Workout # 63
Start: 1212 Finish: 1253
BW = 248
Squat - Reset to 320 from 355 on Workout #46. Tweaked my back on Workout # 60. Reset to 275 on Workout # 63.
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 5
275 x 5
275 x 5
Bench - Reset to 225 from 245 on Workout #47.
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 2
225 x 1
245 x 5
245 x 5
245 x 5
Rows - Reset to 225 from 245 on Workout #48. Tweaked my back on Workout #60. Reset to 185 on Workout #63.
45 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 5
185 x 5
185 x 5
Tad_T
11-29-2011, 11:12 PM
Tuesday, 29 November 2011
Workout # 64
Start: 1952 Finish: 2035
BW = 247
Warm Ups
Back Extensions = BW x 10
Decline Situps = BW x 10
Squat - Reset to 320 from 355 on Workout #46. Tweaked my back on Workout # 60. Reset to 275 from 340 on Workout #63.
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
285 x 5
285 x 5
285 x 5
Press - Reset to 140 from 156 on Workout #40.
45 x 5
95 x 3
135 x 1
164 x 5 <-- 5RM PR
164 x 5
164 x 5 <-- 3x5 PR.
Chin-ups
BW x 6
BW x 6
BW x 4
Decline Situps
BW x 10
BW x 10
BW x 10
That Press just keeps on trucking. Good job, especially while recovering from a back tweak. No wonder your chins suffered a tiny bit.
I've run into an impasse as well, and I'm going to take some inspiration from you; stay patient, don't rush it and I'll be back lifting heavy in no time.
Tad_T
12-01-2011, 08:56 AM
That Press just keeps on trucking. Good job, especially while recovering from a back tweak. No wonder your chins suffered a tiny bit.
I've run into an impasse as well, and I'm going to take some inspiration from you; stay patient, don't rush it and I'll be back lifting heavy in no time.
Thanks, Viking. The last two reps on Press were a grind. I am not sure how much longer I can sustain the two lb jumps.
With a back tweak it seems as if everything suffers. :(
It does get frustrating sometimes when it seems as if you just keep plowing the same old ground to fight your way back up.
Oh, well. Such is life.
Tad_T
12-01-2011, 09:05 AM
Thursday, 1 December 2011
Workout #65
Start: 0746 Finish: 0843
BW = 246
Warm Ups
Back Extensions = BW x 11
Decline Situps = BW x 11
Squat - Reset to 320 from 355 on Workout #46. Tweaked my back on Workout #60. Reset to 275 from 340 Workout #63.
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 5
225 x 5
Bench - Reset to 225 from 245 on Workout #47.
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 2
225 x 1
247.5 x 5
247.5 x 5
247.5 x 5 <-- 3x5 PR.
Deadlift - Reset to 365 from 405 on Workout #47. Tweaked my back on Workout #60. Reset to 315 from 390 on Workout #62.
135 x 5
225 x 2
335 x 5
Dips
+5 x 10
+5 x 10
+5 x 10
Decline Situps
BW x 10
BW x 10
BW x 10
It does get frustrating sometimes when it seems as if you just keep plowing the same old ground to fight your way back up.
I feel you. But imagine being the guy that can't even squat the bar. And also you realize that the work done to not decline pays off when you hit a good streak, and start progressing again. And you're setting PR's, so it really can't be all that bad.
Tad_T
12-01-2011, 10:02 AM
Oh, no. I did not mean to imply that things are bad. It is just that wheel spinning can be a drag.
Overall, I am pretty pleased with my progress.
Tad_T
12-03-2011, 08:26 PM
Saturday, 3 December 2011
Workout # 66
Start: 1640 Finish: 1728
BW = 245
Warm Ups
Back Extensions = BW x 12
Decline Situps = BW x 12
Squat - Reset to 320 from 355 on Workout #46. Tweaked my back on Workout #60. Reset to 275 from 340 on Workout #63.
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
295 x 5
295 x 5
295 x 5
Press - Reset to 140 from 156 on Workout #40.
45 x 5
95 x 3
135 x 1
166 x 5 <-- 5RM PR
166 x 5 <-- Fail. 4 good reps, 1 ~ push press.
166 x 5 <-- Fail. 3 good reps, 2 ~ push press.
Rows - Reset to 225 from 245 on Workout #48. Tweaked my back on Workout #60. Reset to 185 from 230 on Workout #63.
45 x 5
135 x 5
195 x 5
195 x 5
195 x 5
Decline Situps
BW x 10
BW x 10
BW x 10
The failure on Press was bound to happen soonish. Gonna reset straight away?
Regarding sit-ups I've found my back feels better when I don't do them. I used to do them Starr-inspired (highrep as warmups) but since I stopped doing them all together, not even as "beach work" I've found I have less back issues.
This could all be a coincidence, obviously.
Tad_T
12-05-2011, 02:09 PM
The failure on Press was bound to happen soonish. Gonna reset straight away?
Regarding sit-ups I've found my back feels better when I don't do them. I used to do them Starr-inspired (highrep as warmups) but since I stopped doing them all together, not even as "beach work" I've found I have less back issues.
This could all be a coincidence, obviously.
I was expecting that the Press would fail soon. I think that I will drop back to 160 and start with 1 lb increases and see if I can creep up on a few new PR's.
I have found that I am the opposite on situps vs back. I tried dropping them from my program after I read Rip's ab article. I had a lot more daily back pain. I added them back and my daily pains were reduced. I have no explanation for it, but Starr's recommendations seem to work better for my back than Rip's do.
I guess we each have to figure out what works best for us and do that.
I guess we each have to figure out what works best for us and do that.
And if everyone just realized this, most training forums would be a lot less noisy, and a lot more people would make a lot less mistakes.
Tad_T
12-06-2011, 09:22 AM
Tuesday, 6 December 2011
Workout #67
Start: 0619 Finish: 0713
BW = 247
Warm Ups
Back Extensions = BW x 13
Decline Situps = BW x 13
Squat - Reset to 320 from 355 on Workout #46. Tweaked my back on Workout # 60. Reset to 275 from 340 on Workout #63.
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
305 x 5
305 x 5
305 x 5
Bench - Reset to 225 from 245 on Workout #47.
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 2
225 x 1
250 x 5
250 x 5
250 x 4 <-- Fail. I will attempt this weight again on my next bench workout, Workout #69.
Chin-ups
BW x 6
BW x 6
BW x 4
Decline Situps
+5 x 10
+5 x 10
+5 x 10
That's a decent bench you're getting there. I'm sure you'll hit 250 next time around. Working those squats up slowly, eh?
Tad_T
12-08-2011, 05:27 PM
Thursday, 8 December 2011
Workout #68
Start: 0926 Finish: 1008
BW = 246
Warm Ups
Back Extensions = BW x 14
Decline Situps = BW x 14
Squat - Reset to 320 from 355 on Workout #46. Tweaked my back on Workout #60. Reset to 275 from 340 Workout #63.
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
245 x 5
245 x 5
Press - Reset to 140 from 156 on Workout #40. Reset to 160 from 166 on Workout # 68.
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 1
160 x 5
160 x 5
160 x 5
Deadlift - Reset to 365 from 405 on Workout #47. Tweaked my back on Workout #60. Reset to 315 from 390 on Workout #62.
135 x 5
225 x 2
315 x 1
355 x 5
The last two days have both been 16 hour days at work. Then last night I drank a six pack after I got home. I was dragging today and running late. Everything felt heavy. I cut the workout short after my core lifts.
Tad_T
12-08-2011, 05:32 PM
That's a decent bench you're getting there. I'm sure you'll hit 250 next time around. Working those squats up slowly, eh?
Thanks, man. I've been working on it.
I'm still doing the advanced novice programming on the squats and adding 10 on Tuesday and Saturday. I plan on doing that until I get back up to 335.
I can feel it coming that I am probably fixing to have to change up my programming before too much longer. 68 workouts, so far, has been a pretty good run.
I can feel it coming that I am probably fixing to have to change up my programming before too much longer. 68 workouts, so far, has been a pretty good run.
Indeed. A 315-350 squat for reps and proportional poundage on the other lifts is usually where people our size end linear progression. At least it has been for me the times I've been through it. Any thoughts on what to do next?
Tad_T
12-10-2011, 01:14 PM
Saturday, 10 December 2011
Workout # 69
Start: 1123 Finish: 1214
BW = 247
Warm Ups
Back Extensions = BW x 15
Decline Situps = BW x 15
Squat - Reset to 320 from 355 on Workout #46. Tweaked my back on Workout #60. Reset to 275 from 340 on Workout #63.
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
315 x 5
315 x 5
315 x 5
Bench - Reset to 225 from 245 on Workout #47.
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 2
225 x 1
250 x 5
250 x 5
250 x 5 <-- 3x5 PR.
Rows - Reset to 225 from 245 on Workout #48. Tweaked my back on Workout #60. Reset to 185 from 230 on Workout #63.
45 x 5
135 x 5
205 x 5
205 x 5
205 x 5
Decline Situps
+5 x 10
+5 x 10
+5 x 10
Tad_T
12-10-2011, 01:21 PM
Indeed. A 315-350 squat for reps and proportional poundage on the other lifts is usually where people our size end linear progression. At least it has been for me the times I've been through it. Any thoughts on what to do next?
I am not ready to give up on this quite yet if I can keep advancing. I have really been wanting to set a new PR in both Squat and Deadlift for SS before I move on. I would still like to try that if I can get back up there without stalling or hurting myself again.
I have a hybrid program that I used before that worked really well for me that I think I will try after I finally play this out.
Tad_T
12-13-2011, 09:37 AM
Tuesday, 13 December 2011
Workout #70
Start: 0834 Finish: 0926
BW = 248
Warm Ups
Back Extensions = BW x 16
Decline Situps = BW x 16
Squat - Reset to 320 from 355 on Workout #46. Tweaked my back on Workout # 60. Reset to 275 from 340 on Workout #63.
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
325 x 5
325 x 5
325 x 5
Press - Reset to 140 from 156 on Workout #40. Reset to 160 from 166 on Workout # 68.
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 1
161 x 5
161 x 5
161 x 5
Chin-ups
BW x 6
BW x 6
BW x 5
Decline Situps
+7.5 x 10
+7.5 x 10
+7.5 x 10
How the hell you get all that work in so fast I'll never understand. Almost 3x6 on chins now - good job.
Was wondering: Do you do any other excercise apart from lifting? I seem to remember some morning walks, but I don't know if you're still doing those?
Tad_T
12-15-2011, 09:18 AM
How the hell you get all that work in so fast I'll never understand. Almost 3x6 on chins now - good job.
Was wondering: Do you do any other excercise apart from lifting? I seem to remember some morning walks, but I don't know if you're still doing those?
Thanks.
On my warmups, I just load the bar and go. No rest between sets. For rest between worksets, I use a stopwatch. I normally take three minute rest periods. If a set was really heavy and I am in/close to PR territory, I might take up to a five minute rest. Between exercises, I break down the bar, set up for my next exercise and go straight into my warmup sets. There ain't no magic.
Since it has gotten cold and dark in the mornings, I am not running right now. You can't see the ice and I don't want to go down.
On the days that I do not lift, I walk 3.25 miles with my Lana. We do it in 45-50 minutes. It is not as good as running, but it gets you outside and moving. It is also cool to do it with Lana. It gives us a little time to ourselves on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday mornings. On Sundays we usually go for a run or a bike ride.
Tad_T
12-15-2011, 11:54 AM
Thursday, 15 December 2011
Workout #71
Start: 0921 Finish: 1015
BW = 247
Warm Ups
Back Extensions = BW x 17
Decline Situps = BW x 17
Squat - Reset to 320 from 355 on Workout #46. Tweaked my back on Workout #60. Reset to 275 from 340 Workout #63.
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
260 x 5
260 x 5
Bench - Reset to 225 from 245 on Workout #47.
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 2
225 x 1
252.5 x 5
252.5 x 5
252.5 x 5 <-- 3x5 PR.
Deadlift - Reset to 365 from 405 on Workout #47. Tweaked my back on Workout #60. Reset to 315 from 390 on Workout #62.
135 x 5
225 x 2
315 x 1
375 x 5
Dips
+7.5 x 10
+7.5 x 8
+7.5 x 6
Decline Situps
+7.5 x 10
+7.5 x 10
+7.5 x 10
I was out of gas on the dips. I looked back at my log and I had skipped them last week and I added weight from the last time I did them. I'll repeat next week.
Oh, yeah, and on the situps, I only rest 30 seconds between those sets. I never even get off the slant board.
Tad_T
12-17-2011, 06:52 PM
Saturday, 17 December 2011
Workout #72
Start: 1129 Finish: 1222
BW = 249
Warm Ups
Back Extensions = BW x 18
Decline Situps = BW x 18
Squat - Reset to 320 from 355 on Workout #46. Tweaked my back on Workout #60. Reset to 275 from 340 on Workout #63.
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
315 x 1
335 x 5
335 x 5
335 x 5
Press - Reset to 140 from 156 on Workout #40. Reset to 160 from 166 on Workout #68.
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 1
162 x 5
162 x 5
162 x 5
Rows - Reset to 225 from 245 on Workout #48. Tweaked my back on Workout #60. Reset to 185 from 230 on Workout #63.
45 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 1
215 x 5
215 x 5
215 x 5
Decline Situps
+7.5 x 10
+7.5 x 10
+7.5 x 10
I turned 48 yesterday. Partied a little last night. Still got my workout in today. Then I had to work this afternoon.
Happy birthday and happy holidays. You're creeping back up your lifts as well, thats some heavy squats and presses.
Tad_T
12-20-2011, 12:31 PM
Tuesday, 20 December 2011
Workout #73
Start: 0843 Finish: 0940
BW = 248
Warm Ups
Back Extensions = BW x 19
Decline Situps = BW x 19
Squat - Reset to 320 from 355 on Workout #46. Tweaked my back on Workout # 60. Reset to 275 from 340 on Workout #63.
45 x 5
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
315 x 1
340 x 5
340 x 5
340 x 5
Bench - Reset to 225 from 245 on Workout #47.
45 x 5
95 x 5
135 x 5
185 x 2
225 x 1
255 x 5
255 x 5
255 x 4 <-- Fail. Will repeat on Workout #75.
Chin-ups
BW x 6
BW x 6
BW x 5
Decline Situps
+10 x 10
+10 x 10
+10 x 10
Tad_T
12-20-2011, 12:31 PM
Happy birthday and happy holidays. You're creeping back up your lifts as well, thats some heavy squats and presses.
Thank you, sir.
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