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Rezart Erindi
12-27-2010, 03:00 AM
Hey guys, it's been a cople of weeks since I've been obsessed with this thing - how much should I be deadlifting in order to lift a car from the rear? To avoid confusion I'm talking about a VV Golf which weights in total about 2,2 tons. Thoughts/experiences are welcomed.

aron
12-27-2010, 03:36 AM
Doesnt answer the question, but a girl whos car I was in the other day managed to get it stuck on the ice at the side of the road whilst doing a 3 point turn... when she reversed the wheels spun but the car wouldnt move..... I got out and put my feet against a lampost and my arse against the car and sort of thrust my hips as she reversed.... she was ever so impressed when the car became unstuck

Rezart Erindi
12-27-2010, 03:48 AM
Doesnt answer the question, but a girl whos car I was in the other day managed to get it stuck on the ice at the side of the road whilst doing a 3 point turn... when she reversed the wheels spun but the car wouldnt move..... I got out and put my feet against a lampost and my arse against the car and sort of thrust my hips as she reversed.... she was ever so impressed when the car became unstuck
I bet she was curios about your hip drive... Good job my friend.

Marotta
12-27-2010, 06:02 AM
i would say 7-800, because the range of motion is smaller, and you're lifting the light end of the car.

hbriem
12-27-2010, 06:31 AM
i would say 7-800, because the range of motion is smaller, and you're lifting the light end of the car.

No, much less. Juan Lancaster, who sometimes blogs here and there as sumoman, regularly deadlifted his ~1000kg (~2200 lbs) Volvo for reps. His max deadlift at the time was around 200kg (440 lbs) or maybe a little over.

I haven't really tried it myself though. The cars I have examined with an eye toward deadlifting them have not had bumpers conducive to it. Modern bumpers are not handhold-friendly. I did grab hold of the bumper of a rusty old hulk in a junkyard once and it came off in my hands.

Rezart Erindi
12-27-2010, 06:36 AM
No, much less. Juan Lancaster, who sometimes blogs here and there as sumoman, regularly deadlifted his ~1000kg (~2200 lbs) Volvo for reps. His max deadlift at the time was around 200kg (440 lbs) or maybe a little over.

I haven't really tried it myself though. The cars I have examined with an eye toward deadlifting them have not had bumpers conducive to it. Modern bumpers are not handhold-friendly. I did grab hold of the bumper of a rusty old hulk in a junkyard once and it came off in my hands.

Yep, I agree the bumper thing is a problem, as it will be the first thing that may come off.

Marotta
12-27-2010, 08:31 AM
No, much less. Juan Lancaster, who sometimes blogs here and there as sumoman, regularly deadlifted his ~1000kg (~2200 lbs) Volvo for reps. His max deadlift at the time was around 200kg (440 lbs) or maybe a little over.

I haven't really tried it myself though. The cars I have examined with an eye toward deadlifting them have not had bumpers conducive to it. Modern bumpers are not handhold-friendly. I did grab hold of the bumper of a rusty old hulk in a junkyard once and it came off in my hands.

Really? I'm so gonna try this!!

Regin Smidur
12-27-2010, 08:37 AM
I asked the same question over on catalystathletics.net

http://catalystathletics.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5569

aron
12-27-2010, 08:55 AM
Also, If you mean just lifting the back of a car for the purpose of impressing ppl or whatever, bear in mind that you'll be lifting it with double underhand grip, so your grip has to be bloody strong

ColoWayno
12-27-2010, 08:57 AM
I did grab hold of the bumper of a rusty old hulk in a junkyard once and it came off in my hands.

You are supposed to say it like this: "I ripped the boomper off the stout olde cair wit me bear hands".

Brenden
12-27-2010, 12:16 PM
I can pull 385, and could not lift the back end of a '57 Chevy pickup, for what it's worth.

tremorviolet
12-27-2010, 04:47 PM
I just summed the moments assuming the car weighs 3000lbs, is 158" overall, and has a 100" wheelbase (courtesy of Google) and got about 1160 lbs.

However (and it's a big however), I assumed the weight was evenly distributed over the entire length of the car. This is obviously not the case with most cars. Somebody more knowledgeable about this stuff should chime in but I'm guessing an engine is about 1/3 to 1/2 of the cars overall weight and you'd obviously try to pick up the other end, right?

OK, assuming the engine is half the vehicle weight and located halfway between the front wheel and the bumper and the remainder of the weight is evenly distributed, you'd need to be able to pick-up about 581 lbs.

OK, here's a bad paint diagram. I summed about Y for SUM(My) = 0 = 129"(x) + 29"/2(w1) - 129"/2(w2).

908

NKT
12-27-2010, 06:05 PM
I just did some research and calcs on a Honda Civic...

according to this page, (http://www.juggle.com/2010-honda-civic-sedan) the weight distribution is 40/60 rear/front, the weight is 2630lb, and the wheelbase is 106.3". I'm assuming 36" from rear wheels to rear bumper.

0.4*2630lb = 1052lb rear wheel weight
1052lb*106.3"/(106.3"+36") = 786lb lift weight

This lift would be more like a heavily-loaded chain deadlift or rack pull because of the suspension, with only a couple of inches of the lift under the full load, but that's still a shitload of weight.

So... looks like around an 800lb rack pull would be required.

Edit: the numbers for a 2004 VW Golf look like this:
.37*2945*101.5/(101.5+36) = 804lb lift weight

bob g
12-27-2010, 06:21 PM
Edit: the numbers for a 2004 VW Golf look like this:
.37*2945*101.5/(101.5+36) = 804lb lift weight

ding-ding-ding-ding "Tell him what he won, Guy Pardo"

Last night I saw a rerun of ESPN's World's Strongest Man from South Africa. They were lifting VWs, I forget the model, and said the dead lift weight was 781 lbs. The contestants repped between 9 and 11. They be big and strong.

tremorviolet
12-27-2010, 09:02 PM
I just did some research and calcs on a Honda Civic...

according to this page, (http://www.juggle.com/2010-honda-civic-sedan) the weight distribution is 40/60 rear/front, the weight is 2630lb, and the wheelbase is 106.3". I'm assuming 36" from rear wheels to rear bumper.

Cool, this is the part I couldn't find online.

Rezart Erindi
12-28-2010, 02:19 AM
OK guys, I think that now I have a very good idea, and an awful lot of road ahead to achieve that. Thanks for all the contribution.

Ian Kovtunovich
12-28-2010, 10:17 AM
I can pull 385, and could not lift the back end of a '57 Chevy pickup, for what it's worth.

I'm not a car guy by any means, but I'm guessing the ass end of a truck that old probably weighs as much as a Honda Civic, engine and all. Lotta steel there!

Brenden
12-28-2010, 11:53 AM
I'm not a car guy by any means, but I'm guessing the ass end of a truck that old probably weighs as much as a Honda Civic, engine and all. Lotta steel there!

Yeah, that was back before they started making cars out of plastic. The bed is solid thick metal. I definitely wasn't worried about tearing the bumper off, as it was solid metal welded on.