Yet another: thugs knock out 'older' man on Chicago Subway platform

[Titanium]

Previous two threads involved isolated assaults in parks; this knockout took place on a crowded subway platform in Chicago.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-video-shows-man-being-punched-at-red-line-stop-amid-laughs-and-taunts-20111111,0,5079572.story

[ColoWayno]

Kind of makes me want to get a bunch of quarters and put them in a sock... except my Glock is better.

[FKYT]

Goddamnit, this shit always gets my blood boiling.

We need fewer videos of thugs playing the "knockout game", and more videos of thugs that start shit and get owned. Like that one of the old Russian guy knocking out four dudes.

[Titanium]

Haven't seen that video. Might you have the link?

[FKYT]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hset65QqXHk

[Mark E. Hurling]

There's an old police defensive tactics book title The Koga Method that I first saw in college in the 60's and bought later. It talks about how when as a cop, you talk to people you assume a 45 degree angle position relative to the other person with a step to a half step back to widen the gap to get out of arm's reach. Good advice for all of us to follow. Also as you step back check your six for flankers. Look slightly down as you do this, it widens out the peripheral vision. Looking at this video, the victim faced full frontal and so got tagged hard. That half step back is in fact a preparation for potential attack. I have done it several times in uniform and out of it, and it sends a message. Direct eye contact at just below attacker eye level to the area between the chin and the sternum does not signal a challenge but does allow a clear early indication of a developing attack.

[Grumpypeon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7PquKazYH4

[ColoWayno]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7PquKazYH4

That is one funny pot tokin' cocaine snortin' old dude.

[mlentzner]

@Titanium,

I couldn't reply to your PM because it said your box was full.

Here's my reply:

Peter,

Just noticed your message. I don't check my notifications very often, sorry.

I don't currently train anywhere. I've done all sorts of styles, so my specific philosophies are my own. I think Kenpo is the closest thing to what I preach. It's a no-nonsense, self-defense oriented approach to gaining the initiative and bushwhacking your adversary before they know what hit them. That's the style I've spent the most time with although it got progressively sillier as I moved up the ranks. As is usually the case, all the good stuff is in the basics and making those basics happen automatically.

I trained at Livermore Kenpo Karate - which was excellent when I was there. But that was 10 years ago so I don't know what is going on there now.

My understanding is that Krav Maga is similar at least philosophically although I've never studied it.

It sounds like you know what you want so go to a bunch of schools and talk to the sensei, shifu, master, whoever is in charge. Watch a class and see what they do. Frequent live sparring is a must. Lots of self-defense reaction drills are good as well. Look at the students too. If there's a bunch of out-of-shape high ranking belts who move like crap then I would stay away.

Hope that helps. Happy to answer any further questions.

Matt