M, 6'1", DOB: 1978, Training Since: April 2014, Diet/Programming: Dr. GainzZz

[Aaron Montgomery]

My gut is 3/4" bigger than yours, and I weigh 24lb less...

[anticausal]

My gut is 3/4" bigger than yours, and I weigh 24lb less...

Height? When I was 190 my log says I was at 32.5"/31.5" (regular/cheated). Pant size never went below 34", though. Except loose fit jeans, where I could get away with 32". My quads never grew that much. I never had the quad problem with pants so many people talk about. The waist was always the reason I had to move up pants sizes, never legs.

The only measurement I really trust for any comparison is the "cheated" version. I suck in as much as possible, so it's the absolute minimum I can physically pull off at the navel. The regular measurement is too ambiguous for my taste, but I still include it. I use one of these things:

[Aaron Montgomery]

Same height as you.

Just re-checked my paper journal. 2 weeks ago my waist was 36.25/32 (relaxed/vacuum-sucked-in) at a weight of 188lb. Why would I have a 4.25" difference at 188lb, and at 190lb you only had a 1" difference between normal and cheated? Hmmmmm...

[anticausal]

Same height as you.

Just re-checked my paper journal. 2 weeks ago my waist was 36.25/32 (relaxed/vacuum-sucked-in) at a weight of 188lb. Why would I have a 4.25" difference at 188lb, and at 190lb you only had a 1" difference between normal and cheated? Hmmmmm...

Haha, that's why I said I only really trust the cheated version! I'm probably not measuring the way I should. There is just so much distance between sucked in and sticking out.

For reference, right at this moment, I busted out the MyoTape after a healthy dinner, and if I stick out my stomach as much as I can, I'm at 41.5". So who the heck knows.

[Aaron Montgomery]

Well, I shot a message to Jordan's forum, so we'll see if he thinks it's worth his time responding.

[anticausal]

Well, I shot a message to Jordan's forum, so we'll see if he thinks it's worth his time responding.

About how to measure the waist? I know what his answer would have been about 2.5 years ago. He was not a fan of the "cheated" measurement. He said to stand at attention, relax, and measure.

I don't agree with him though. There is way too much ambiguity to "relax". The cheated measurement is obviously the most consistent and resistant to crazy variations, at least for me. As long as you are using a MyoTape or similar, it's best IMO. With a plain tape, I can see weirdness coming about with how tightly you cinch the tape, but with a MyoTape that isn't an issue.

[Aaron Montgomery]

I use a MytoTape. My main question for Jordan was why someone might have a 2" vs a 4" variance in their cheated/relaxed measurement.

[anticausal]

I use a MytoTape. My main question for Jordan was why someone might have a 2" vs a 4" variance in their cheated/relaxed measurement.

Probably because your position for "relaxed" is different than my position for "relaxed". It's too subjective.

[anticausal]

Sunday, March 26, 2017

Day 1 - Comp Squat, Comp Bench, Supp Bench

Training Week

Day 1 (Sun) | Day 2 (Mon) | GPP 1 (Tue) | Day 3 (Wed) | Day 4 (Thu) | GPP 2 (Fri) | Off (Sat)

Facts

Morning BW: 211.4 (-2.0 lb over last Sunday)
Sleep: 2:09am-12:01pm
Time in Bed/Time Asleep: 9h52m/8h42m
Restless/Awake: 46m (23x)/24m (4x)
Pre-Bed Self-Med: Nothing

Pre-workout Meal: @ t - 3h00m

802 kCal - 94g (C), 12g (F), 74g (P), 15g (Fib)

• 70g Buttermilk Pancake Mix (Dry Measure)
• 70g Wegmans Strawberry Fruit Spread
• 15g Psyllium Husk Fiber
• 2 Slices Hormel Black Label Bacon
• 12g Psyllium Husk Fiber
• 100g Wegmans Fat Free Greek Yogurt
• 40g Whey Protein Isolate
• 2g Dr. Tobias Omega 3 Fish Oil
• 48 oz coffee
• 10g Non-dairy creamer
• 10g BCAAs

Day's Macros: 270/270 C, 67/69 F, 250/250 P, 31/45 Fib

Feelz

Aches and Pains: 6/10
DOMS: 4/10
Lower Body Fatigue: 6/10
Upper Back/Torso fatigue: 8/10
Arm Fatigue: 8/10
Motivation: 5/10
Stress: 5/10

Training

Theme: Restoration

Comp Squat - Rx: x1@8, x6x2@8s

• 225x5@6
• 275x3@6
• 295x1@7
• 305x1@8.5
• 260x6@8
• 260x6@8

Comp Bench (TnG) - Rx: x1@8, x6x2@8s

• 205x3@7
• 215x2@7
• 225x1@7
• 235x1@8
• 205x6@8
• 205x6@8.5

CG Floor Press - Rx: x10@6, x10@7, x10x2@8s

• 155x10@6
• 165x10@7
• 175x10@8
• 175x9@10 (Failed last rep)

Notes

Comp Squat: I felt destroyed. There was absolutely nothing enjoyable about this session.

Comp Bench (TnG): I had a glimmer of hope that I'd be strong on bench today and maybe have the energy to make up for my shitty realization. I was very, very wrong.

CG Floor Press: Triceps completely fried out on that last set.

[anticausal]

Monday, March 27, 2017

Day 2 - Comp Deadlift, Supp Bench, Supp Squat

Training Week

Day 1 (Sun)| Day 2 (Mon) | GPP 1 (Tue) | Day 3 (Wed) | Day 4 (Thu) | GPP 2 (Fri) | Off (Sat)

Facts

Morning BW: 213.4 lb (-1.8 lb over last Monday)
Sleep: 12:40am-9:20am
Time in Bed/Time Asleep: 8h40m/7h48m
Restless/Awake: 21m (8x)/31m (11x)
Pre-Bed Self-Med: Nothing

Pre-workout Meal: @ t - 1h15m

422 kCal - 56g (C), 6g (F), 38 (P), 7g (Fib)

• 40g Quaker Oats (dry measure)
• 5g Sugar
• 1 Nutri Grain Breakfast Bar
• 30g Whey Isolate
• 100mg Caffeine
• 10g BCAAs

Day's Macros: 270/270 C, 70/69 F, 246/250 P, 27/45 Fib

Feelz

Aches and Pains:4/10
DOMS: 4/10
Lower Body Fatigue: 3/10
Upper Back/Torso Fatigue: 4/10
Arm/Chest Fatigue: 5/10
Motivation: 5/10
Stress: 5/10

Training

Theme: Restoration

Comp Deadlift - Rx: x1@8, x6x2@8s

• 315x5@7 (DOH)
• 365x4@7 (+hook)
• 405x1@6 (+belt)
• 425x1@7
• 450x1@8
• 390x6@8 (+straps)
• 390x6@8

Pin Bench - Rx: x8@6, x8@7, x8x2@8s

• 170x8@6
• 180x8@7
• 190x8@8
• 190x8@8.5

HBBS - Rx: x10@6, x10@7, x10x2@8s

• 135x10@6
• 185x10@7.5
• 185x10@8
• 185x10@8

Notes

General: Felt a lot better today than yesterday. Still weak and fatigued, but I had some energy.

Comp Deadlift: Single RPEs are +1 compared to realization day. Since it's only 5 days since I did 525x1@10, I'd say this session was pretty good.

Pin Bench: No comments.

HBBS: That cardio.