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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Sure. I read the New York Times quite often.
    Yeah, that's what it looks like. It looks like you read the New York Times. Saying the New York Times is a leftist newspaper is like saying Fox News is a libertarian TV station. If I want to read libertarian thought, I go to Reason magazine or something similar. IN the same vein, if I want to read leftist politics, I don't go to the New York Times. I read Noam Chomsky or I go to Democracy Now.

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    Or The Nation, or The New Republic, or Vox. If you're trying to say that I don't understand leftism, why don't you simply correct my misunderstanding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Or The Nation, or The New Republic, or Vox.
    The Nation is legit. It's a serious news source and it's leftist. I don't know about Vox, and I stopped following The New Republic when they had their editorial changes.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe
    If you're trying to say that I don't understand leftism, why don't you simply correct my misunderstanding?
    Well, I don't think everything you say is incorrect. Correcting everything you do misunderstand isn't something I can do anyway. It takes research which you can obviously do. I'm just alerting you to the fact that what's usually presented as leftism on these boards is not leftism or is a small part of the leftism movement. I'm assuming that you would rather deal with real people instead of caricatures and strawmen. Maybe that's wrong. I wonder sometimes if you and others who are libertarians have read work from leading libertarians like Murray Rothbard. I also wonder if you've read the classical liberals like Adam Smith and Wilhelm von Humboldt who advocated less government interference. They're the ones who both socialists and libertarians claim as intellectual forefathers. I think there would be some common ground or at least understanding if we were talking about actual leftists and actual libertarians as opposed to caricatures and straw men.

    If there was one thing I think you don't get about many leftists, it would be why they dislike businesses, and you're not going to find this in the New York Times. Again, this is interesting because it comes from the same writings which libertarians use to justify their ideas of freedom and individual liberty. Here are two short videos from Noam Chomsky which hopefully explain it well. Keep in mind that this video doesn't explain everything, just a few basic ideas. I'd also be surprised if you tell me that Chomsky's dishonest.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_ze4AA-p8w

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oztdRo9GLLk

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    Quote Originally Posted by wal View Post
    You are obviously not married yet with no kids in high school.
    So true. I get told I have anger issues on a regular basis. Now I know why men are notorious for spending so much time in the bathroom, it's the only place where I can lock the door and have some peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedude47111 View Post
    [I] Here are two short videos from Noam Chomsky which hopefully explain it well. Keep in mind that this video doesn't explain everything, just a few basic ideas. I'd also be surprised if you tell me that Chomsky's dishonest.
    Noam Chomsky??? Who is that??
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    Quote Originally Posted by thedude47111 View Post

    Keep in mind that this video doesn't explain everything, just a few basic ideas.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_ze4AA-p8w

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oztdRo9GLLk
    Pace yourself coach. This doesn't explain everything.

    I have a feeling "everything" will unfold over the next few dozen pages. Please don't ban this guy. I have so little in my life to look forward to.

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    My wife said something funny the other day when we were watching a news story about North Korea possibly testing a hydrogen bomb.

    "Thank God they don't have an estrogen bomb."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    CNoam Chomsky??? Who is that??
    He's a world-renowned scientist and the most famous American leftist. He's the smartest political analyst I've ever seen. If you can go to battle with the facts he presents, you can't be accused of avoiding arguments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedude47111 View Post
    I'd also be surprised if you tell me that Chomsky's dishonest.

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    The most I've heard about Chomsky was in grad school, from anarchist friends that liked to drop his name.

    Googling, I find the article linked below, where Chomsky sounds honestly naive. Particularly where he says Iran supports a nuclear-free zone in "the region".

    http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/noam-chomsky-electing-president-empire

    Could be that he's naive or an idiot savant, or that he's gone off the rails in his senior years.

    Elsewhere in the article he draws an equivalence between Eisenhower and Bernie Sanders. That's supposed to be broad thinking.

    Is this the best the left has to offer?

    Vince

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedude47111 View Post
    He's a world-renowned scientist and the most famous American leftist. He's the smartest political analyst I've ever seen. If you can go to battle with the facts he presents, you can't be accused of avoiding arguments.
    Really? How long has he been around? Does he have a TV show?

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