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[skjill]

In what universe is eating a pan of cake a day drenched in olive oil an effective means of improving strength, let alone Wilks score, in an advanced lifter?

[Jordan Feigenbaum]

In what universe is eating a pan of cake a day drenched in olive oil an effective means of improving strength, let alone Wilks score, in an advanced lifter?

If they need to gain weight and it results in them getting stronger more than them gaining weight. It's not my typical advice, but hey- you did post a snarky comment here and wanted to be validated for it. So, I'll validate it outside of the instance I mentioned above.

[skjill]

Fair enough, but in what circumstances might that occur?

[Jordan Feigenbaum]

Fair enough, but in what circumstances might that occur?

In a case where someone who otherwise wasn't gaining weight, but who (after gaining weight) was much stronger and subsequently had a better Wilks score. That's the circumstance and one that is not too uncommon. Certainly not enough to warrant your original post in my opinion. Tolerance, my friend.

[skjill]

Oh, I really didn't mean anything by it! Sorry about that. Are you saying you won't know until you try?

[Jordan Feigenbaum]

Oh, I really didn't mean anything by it! Sorry about that. Are you saying you won't know until you try?

I'm saying that fear of gaining weight may keep folks understrong indefinitely comared to their potential, but if there are risks and benefits to gaining as well as not.

[Dag]

What I want to know is in what universe is cake covered in oil preferred over ice cream covered with chocolate syrup? I can eat that until there's no more to be eaten!

[Dag]

That reminds me - Jordan, have you seen John Meadows interview with Dave Tate where he talks about gaining weight J.M. Blakely style? It's pretty epic

[skjill]

The risk, aside from pants not fitting, being that rapid weight gain might not increase Wilks at all, or even strength to a significant degree. Excluding novices or those that won't eat real food, who would likely benefit from something like this?

[Jordan Feigenbaum]

The risk, aside from pants not fitting, being that rapid weight gain might not increase Wilks at all, or even strength to a significant degree. Excluding novices or those that won't eat real food, who would likely benefit from something like this?

That is a risk, but there is also a potential benefit from rapid weight gain leading to an increase in Wilks. I gained 60lbs in a year when I started training and squatted 500, pulled 545, and benched 365. I'd be fatter for a year 10/10 times to get strong quickly instead of putzing around at 180 working on my sets at 275.