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    Quote Originally Posted by afc96 View Post
    I'm really pesimistic about the bench lol. 2 sets of bench I don't think its enough..

    But I'll hope for the best.

    Is there any other way to put the missing volume in?

    All this because I was a volume warrior on the squats sigh.
    You failed the second set of bench so you decided to stop there instead of at least doing 5 sets of as many as you can?
    Why are you worried about being a volume warrior, particularly on squats if you made ID?
    And what does squat volume have to do with your bench problems?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vogstar View Post
    You failed the second set of bench so you decided to stop there instead of at least doing 5 sets of as many as you can?
    Why are you worried about being a volume warrior, particularly on squats if you made ID?
    And what does squat volume have to do with your bench problems?
    Um no.. I fiinshed the 5 set. I got like 3 reps for the rest of the sets.

    More volume on squats = More energy wasted before bench = weaker bench.


    Just to update:

    Failed on all my lifts.

    Suppose to get 2 sets of 3 on Squats and managed only to get 3 reps on the first set. It was a surprise though.. the first 3 reps was easy and yet the 2nd set my body just shut down.

    Suppose to get 5 reps on Bench, managed to only get 3 yeah probably because of the bad VD benching.

    So I failed VD and ID.

    This means too much volume right?

    So i should do 4x5 squats instead of 5x5 right?
    Last edited by afc96; 07-31-2015 at 03:47 AM.

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    The volume probably isn't the issue, it's most likely the intensity of the volume day. Do your 5x5 squat and bench, but use an appropriate weight. It appears your volume day is too heavy from what you've posted. We don't have your training history though, so it's all going to be speculation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    The volume probably isn't the issue, it's most likely the intensity of the volume day. Do your 5x5 squat and bench, but use an appropriate weight. It appears your volume day is too heavy from what you've posted. We don't have your training history though, so it's all going to be speculation.
    Well my VD is 89.9999% of my ID..

    I can only complete the squat.. I'm not sure whether I was just having a bad VD or if the volume(weight X reps X sets) is too much..

    I'm thinking it was just a bad day that carried over to ID.

    I'll try the same thing again next week.
    Last edited by afc96; 07-31-2015 at 04:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afc96 View Post
    Well my VD is 89.9999% of my ID..

    I can only complete the squat.. I'm not sure whether I was just having a bad VD or if the volume(weight X reps X sets) is too much..

    I'm thinking it was just a bad day that carried over to ID.

    I'll try the same thing again next week.
    Maybe it should be 88%. Or 87%. Or 85%.

    How much is your ID squat?

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    Well wanted to update.

    Last week Intensity(where I did the OP), I failed to get 3 reps for 2. Only got 3 reps. THe second set, My body shuts down. Failed bench also.

    This week, I did the same weight.. and managed to complete both bench and squat Volume day.



    SO probably OP was just a bad day cause it was easy AF this week.

    But then, I failed intensity again this week. Inadequate volume. Time to increase Volume Day's weight.

    but... I failed intensity.. Aimed for 3 reps of 2.

    Only got 2 reps. Thats a decrease in performance.

    Also, currently 8 weeks in TM. failed two weeks in a row. So i got 6 successful weeks and 2 bad ones.

    Its really really hard to know whats my optimal volume.

    Try to increase every other week, and I failed. Increase every week, tiring AF.

    It sounds so simple though.

    "just do enough Volume to progress ID."

    lol.
    Last edited by afc96; 08-07-2015 at 08:50 PM.

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    You're only 8 weeks in, 3 (4?) of which you didn't hit your prescribed sets/reps for the day. You've clearly selected the wrong starting weights.

    Reset your ID back to sets of 5, with a weight that you can hit for 3x5. Set your volume weight at 90% of that for 5x5. Progress ID every week and VD every other week (or micro load, which is actually better if you have access to fractional plates).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    You're only 8 weeks in, 3 (4?) of which you didn't hit your prescribed sets/reps for the day. You've clearly selected the wrong starting weights.

    Reset your ID back to sets of 5, with a weight that you can hit for 3x5. Set your volume weight at 90% of that for 5x5. Progress ID every week and VD every other week (or micro load, which is actually better if you have access to fractional plates).
    No no..

    I failed only this week and last week..

    Yes I did all the things that Rip mentioned on PPST.

    I had successful 6 weeks of 5 reps.. and 1 week of 2x3.

    So i don't think I'm doing things wrongly.. I've added almost 30lbs already on my squat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afc96 View Post
    No no..

    I failed only this week and last week..

    Yes I did all the things that Rip mentioned on PPST.

    I had successful 6 weeks of 5 reps.. and 1 week of 2x3.

    So i don't think I'm doing things wrongly.. I've added almost 30lbs already on my squat.
    You should be able to run 5rm for way, way longer than 6 weeks. Like, 6months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    You should be able to run 5rm for way, way longer than 6 weeks. Like, 6months.
    Well I didn't know there was an amount of time to run 5 reps..

    I just switched to 3reps because the last 5 reps was a real grinder.. so i thought i wasn't going to get anpther 5 rep PR the following week.

    Thanks for the info.

    edit: as my goal is PL, I also thought 3reps were bettter.. according to Lascek's book.
    Last edited by afc96; 08-08-2015 at 09:24 PM.

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