Nicotine is a funny substance, both stimulating and relaxing, and how you respond to it can vary pretty strongly. But probably the one that made you ill had a quite high nicotine content, a higher ring gauge, or you smoked it much faster because of the setting. Or some combination there-of. I have some high nic cigars (and pipe tobacco! Lord, do I have some strong pipe tobacco) that will beat up my stomach if I smoke them too fast. Keep it leisurely, no big deal.
Originally Posted by spar
I've never seen a Nat Sherman cigar, though. Familiar with their very expensive cigarettes, but I'm not surprised that it smoked well, and was very smooth. That's sort of their brand identity, innit?
When I was a smoker long ago, I found it both stimulating (in a non-adrenal way) and relaxing. But now that I smoke very rarely, and only cigars when I do, it apparently wires me in a way it didn't when I was consuming it regularly.
Originally Posted by tertius
I've had very strong cigars before, though, with no problem--I was able to just pace myself. I think the one I had that made me queasy was an issue because I had trouble keeping it lit, so I was constantly relighting it. I now have a theory that the amount of puffing you do when lighting delivers really high concentrations of nicotine very quickly. But maybe that's just my imagination.
Originally Posted by tertius
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I've had some strong nicotine cigars before but the effect was soothing rather than stimulating. Strange, huh?
This is a good thread to find. I'm currently working on a bottle of Laphroaig 18 yr old, and just finished a bottle of Dalwhinnie 15 a couple of weeks ago. I'm not the biggest fan of cigars, as I prefer a half-bent briar pipe with an aromatic blend. I have a decent collection of pipes & tobaccos, so if I remember, I'll take a photo or two to post.
I really liked the Dalwhinnie 15, but I'd also like to try something different for the next time I have some spare cash. Can anyone recommend something similar to the Dalwhinnie or that you think I would like? Thanks!
My current bottle is an Old Pulteney 12. A lovely dram of the non-smoky kind.
Regarding bourbons. On a recent trip to New York I was able to taste quite a few bourbons having very little previous experience with them. The only ones available here are the supposedly prosaic Jack Daniels and Jim Beam. Anyway I tried Maker's Mark, Maker's 46, Rittenhouse, Wild Turkey, Knob Creek, Four Roses, Buffalo Trace and probably others that I've forgotten about in the general haze of dissipation.
Anyway, I still don't quite "get" bourbon. I mean, it's a nice drink and all, but I don't really get any significant differences between brands like I do with scotch single malts. Perhaps the overwhelming influence of vanilla from the new casks obscures everything else and you need a subtler or more practiced palate to go beyond it. More research is clearly needed ;-)
Well, at least one of those is a Rye, and not Bourbon. :-) And the Wild Turkey might be a Rye too.
Originally Posted by hbriem
There's quite a lot of variety in Bourbon, actually. It does take some time to get beyond the wood influence, and honestly a lot of the bigger brands rely overmuch on the wood. Having a very unsubtle palette, I tend to prefer a higher rye content in the mashbill (like Knob Creek), and dislike wheated whiskeys (Maker's). But Bourbon is much more conservative in a lot of ways than even the Scotch business, and it's only with some of the very small distillers that people are willing to experiment.
Our liquor order came in today and this is what I found. Balvenie 12 Doublewood, Balvenie 14 Caribbean Cask, Balvenie 21 Portwood, Glenfiddich 12, Glenfiddich 15, Glenfiddich 18, and Glenfiddich 21 Gran Reserva.
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I'm not going to catch up on what I missed, but has anyone tried that whiskey coming from Colorado yet?
Stranahan's? It's excellent. Or it was. My bottle is pre-purchase of the distillery by Proximo Beverage.
Originally Posted by mstrofbass
I gather the same crew is running the joint, though, and their focus is still on quality.
It's essentially a single malt, aged in heavily, heavily charred American Oak. The mash may be hopped (the started making the whiskey from bad batches of beer, acquired from a local brewer, the story goes), and the whiskey has an interestingly vegetal, grassy note to it. But it's clearly a barley whiskey, and very, very easy drinking. I prefer it over most of the bourbon I've tried.
I was just invited to try this Stranahan by my expensive-scotch-buying-buddy, I will need to go visit him, nice reviews guys.
I've been too poor for anything but JW Red lately. but the Bulleit Bourbon I'm sipping is nice.