Last edited by Mark Rippetoe; 03-21-2011 at 04:58 PM.
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Daniel, why are you posting about how Elite teaches suit-and-wraps powerlifters how to squat in the APF on this board?
Sorry - because the setup looked similar to the one that I am writing about.
Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe
About the "angles and lines"
I took you book to the power lifting gym today and showed my coach page 31. Figure 2-31 . I asked him what kind of setup/form that I should use. He pointed out the one to the left. So basically he thinks that my back angle during a back squat should be close to the angle of a front squat if I refer to the angles on the pictures.
I asked him about low-bar setup/form to the right in the picture. He told me that that setup creates too much tension on the back and that it is not recommended to use for me. Why well here comes the "angle and lines", he told me that I have long thighs and for that reason I will benefit from squatting more like an "olympic squat". Made it clear that you need to adapt the bar position and back angle for each person with the reference to that persons body type (torso, legs....).
I also showed my coach and page 28. Fig2.29. He thought that the setup/form places to much stress on the spine. Told me that such a squat does not build so much leg power.
About deadlifts. He told me that due to my long thighs I am better suited to do sumos and that my legs are "in the way" when I do conventional deadlifts.
Now I dont have anything against your low bar squat, the conclusions in the book seems solid, however have you never thought about a case when a person is better suited for a non low bar squat? Perhaps I never learned the correct technique for low bar myself. All I know is when I do the squats like my coach tells me to do them I feel that I am engaging my PC really hard.
Last edited by Mark Rippetoe; 03-23-2011 at 04:28 PM.
Man, I've never really thought about any of this shit before. Looks pretty complicated. Just do what your coach tells you to do. Good luck.
Originally Posted by sunetdanne
I have been/am in pretty much the same situation. For some reason or the other, a lot of coaches prefer the high bar squat, especially those coming from an olympic lifting background.
When I started trying to learn to squat I found this coach that taught me the high bar squat. Felt pretty good about it. After a while when i felt more confident and had moved some kgm, I started experimenting and basically moved the bar down on my back. My coach protested and gave me all sorts of arguments why this was a bad thing. Bad for the back, bullshit about angles and anthropomorfy etc.
I listened politely and kept doing what I thought was the right thing.
Nowadays we have a silent agreement that I squat the way I want to, and the coach coaches the OL.
You have to decide for yourself, but my advice would be to stay with the coach and listen to his advice until you feel confident enough to go your own route.
After all, you will still learn to squat, albeit not the Rippetoe certified way.