07-29-2012 07:54 PM
gyorgy who never squatted more than 30kg but when from 60kg to 80kg on the squat is very impressive. How long did this take ? I would assume that neglecting weights 60kg and over would result in considerable decay in strength & technique.
07-29-2012 08:06 PM
I talked about this in one of Sullydog's threads about training an older woman.
In Gyorgy's case, he last year squatted 100kg. So there's some muscle memory going on. On the other hand, cancer. I know of no studies documenting the strength decreases due to serious illness, or the rate of recovery of that strength. It's well-known that you get back strength faster than it went on, it's less clear whether it should take less effort or not, ie using a smaller percentage of 1RM.
As well, remember that these are not big lifts for a guy in the 90s kilograms, newbie gains and all that.
Day 1 he did 60/50/80, however the technique was atrocious, even a crossfit coach would be upset. I took him back to absolute basics, his first workout his "squat" was simply a stretch and knees out while holding onto the rack. Then an unloaded goblet squat, then working up to 10kg for sets of 20, then the empty bar for sets of 5, adding 2.5kg a session. We got up to 30kg in workout 18, and it was eight weeks exactly since he'd started when we tested his strength again and got 80/70/100.
I'd expected him to do the same weights but with better technique, and maybe 5kg more. For a guy in his circumstances that would have been great. Adding 20kg to each lift really surprised me. Apparently, simply practicing the correct movement with any load at all is a powerful thing, at least in the case of newbies.
07-31-2012 08:54 AM
This one's pretty vain.
After having cut down some fat and finally becoming somewhat lean again, I'm about 10% off of my all time 3x5 bests, except for deads. In spite of not being as strong as I used to be, I'm still squatting 335lbs, and I somehow had a small audience of newer gym members last night when I was doing squats and heavy shrugs. Feels good.
I do love the shrugs. The massive overload of Rip's shrug style is an exhilarating feeling.
07-31-2012 09:01 PM
I pulled 405 for 2. Reps in the 400 zone is awesome.
07-31-2012 09:02 PM
08-01-2012 09:43 AM
You'll get that 10% back in a couple of months.
Originally Posted by RobCor
08-01-2012 09:44 AM
Originally Posted by PaulBeech
08-01-2012 09:41 PM
Deadlifted 355lb for 5 for a PR and it felt like I left 20lbs on the bar.. I know that's not a lot to most but it's beastly to me
08-01-2012 10:55 PM
I've seen two people pull double bodyweight this week after only a month of serious training. The lad actually pulled 355 and weighs 162. The girl pulled 240 and weighs 120. I can't take credit for the lad but I've been helping the girl out as much as possible.
Me and another trainer are organizing a fun lifting meet so trainers and members have been seeing what they are capable of.
Last edited by PaulBeech; 08-01-2012 at 10:57 PM.
08-02-2012 08:49 AM
Finally at a point where I got good comments on my squat. Yesterday was 265lbs and this was the second workout of week 6. Not sure how the progress is but I feel like a machine! Not sure how long I can keep going up with 10lbs a workout, but want to hit 300 quick!! It's getting heavy though.