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    Bachmann took Iowa and I guess only slightly surprising since she was born and grew up there. Pawlenty is out now, and I am surprised he left the field so soon. Too nice I suppose, a hallmark of Minnesota politicians, their Stuart Little Senator excepted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tertius View Post
    Ayn Rand didn't write "Brave New World". That's Aldous Huxley.
    Heh, I stand corrected, my apologies. That was the other good book. The Ayn Rand one I read was Anthem, though Brave New World was better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zee-man View Post
    Heh, I stand corrected, my apologies. That was the other good book. The Ayn Rand one I read was Anthem, though Brave New World was better.
    Yeah Huxley's thing was a good read. Uncharacteristically for me, I just didn't want to bust your chops over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark E. Hurling View Post
    As for gasbag philosophers, Kant was the worst. I can read and speak German, and couldn't penetrate his thinking to save my ass.
    I know it's sorta grave-digging and OT, but reading lots of the german philosophers I figured out that they have really simple points, which they write about in a very complex way.

    I.e. Kant thinks we all should behave really nicely. And Habermas thinks we should just sit down and talk. Reading then in original German is a tough ask, though, I'd agree.

    On topic it's really strange to watch American politics from an outsiders perspective. And quite daunting as well, as whatever the result is going to have a huge impact on all of us. From what I've seen so far, I still think it's most likely that Obama will win the next elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danish Viking View Post
    I know it's sorta grave-digging and OT, but reading lots of the german philosophers I figured out that they have really simple points, which they write about in a very complex way.

    I.e. Kant thinks we all should behave really nicely. And Habermas thinks we should just sit down and talk. Reading then in original German is a tough ask, though, I'd agree.
    Hm, that's probably true. I read them in English first, and when my brain locked up on the circular and elliptical sentence constructions I translated it into German with even worse results.

    Quote Originally Posted by Danish Viking View Post
    On topic it's really strange to watch American politics from an outsiders perspective. And quite daunting as well, as whatever the result is going to have a huge impact on all of us. From what I've seen so far, I still think it's most likely that Obama will win the next elections.
    With all due respect, I'm afraid you are indulging in magical thinking Viking. President Obama's poll Gallup Poll numbers dropped below 40 for the first time over the weekend. Unless our economy takes a big upsurge near the 2012 Presidential election in September, he will get waxed badly by someone. I think you miss how unpopular his socialist policies are to so many in the US. I'm not trying to offend you so please don't interpret this remark in such a manner, but I think his policies are similar enough to what you see in Denmark and elsewhere in the EU that they don't seem as far out and radical as most Americans do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark E. Hurling View Post
    With all due respect, I'm afraid you are indulging in magical thinking Viking. President Obama's poll Gallup Poll numbers dropped below 40 for the first time over the weekend. Unless our economy takes a big upsurge near the 2012 Presidential election in September, he will get waxed badly by someone. I think you miss how unpopular his socialist policies are to so many in the US. I'm not trying to offend you so please don't interpret this remark in such a manner, but I think his policies are similar enough to what you see in Denmark and elsewhere in the EU that they don't seem as far out and radical as most Americans do.
    I think you referring to Obama as 'socialist' to a Dane is pretty hilarious.

    I'll be interested to see what DV thinks about it.

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    This made me think of you, Hurling. <3


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    All social change is not decay, although some of it certainly is. Let's take the recent festivities in the UK for example. The artist is putting the word "change" as code for disliking the current hopey changey climate. By the way, how's that change working for you, bud? The cartoonist is also conflating scientific advances in medicine to increase lifespan and science in general to a non sequitor that does not necessarily relate to social change, although some of the technological changes do result in social change. Weak thinking on the part of an intolerant humorist who can draw and color within the lines. Pretty ironic when said maker of funnies cites tolerance in their own word balloon. Really in depth thinking on your part too for missing these points. You want to play nyah, nyah, nyah in front of the old man's house some more? Have at it. I won't even work up a sweat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tertius View Post
    I think you referring to Obama as 'socialist' to a Dane is pretty hilarious.

    I'll be interested to see what DV thinks about it.
    I was simply pointing out in as respectful manner as I could how his own socio-political template is coloring his belief of Obama coming out on top may be ill-founded. Just as mine would be for trying to predict the possible outcome of continued Danish tolerance of militant Islam students in their schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark E. Hurling View Post
    I was simply pointing out in as respectful manner as I could how his own socio-political template is coloring his belief of Obama coming out on top may be ill-founded. Just as mine would be for trying to predict the possible outcome of continued Danish tolerance of militant Islam students in their schools.
    Oh, I understand that, and there may be something to it.
    I'd just be surprised that a European would actually see all that much similarity between Obama and their own Socialist movements, is all.

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