Vinyl

[MattJ.D.]

If Vinyl some how made a come back, who would buy a turn table and a bunch of records? Personally I would never pirate again if vinyl was cheaper and easier to come upon..the sound quality is unmatched.

[Mark E. Hurling]

I don't have to buy either. I have both of them less than 5 feet from where I'm sitting as I type this right now. And I never pirated anything so I have no moral dilemma or cost benefit analysis to work my way through. Sound quality notwithstanding. For me it's more about respecting the intellectual property rights of the artist than my own selfish desires.

[VEremita]

I honestly think vinyl is making a minor comeback. I'm not sure where you live, but there are quite a few vinyl shops where I'm at -- new stuff and tons of used stuff for very cheap. In fact, most of the music purchases I've made over the last two years have been vinyl, and it seems like a lot of bands (at least the ones I listen to) are making vinyl in increasing quantities.

[MattJ.D.]

I don't have to buy either. I have both of them less than 5 feet from where I'm sitting as I type this right now. And I never pirated anything so I have no moral dilemma or cost benefit analysis to work my way through. Sound quality notwithstanding. For me it's more about respecting the intellectual property rights of the artist than my own selfish desires.

well, we all can't be perfect...

[JM3]

Why that is a nice sentiment Mark. As a musician who has had my work pirated and watched others make money on my sound without me benifeting- I appreciate that. I also know many others who would be grateful for your sentiments.
You may also be interested to know that the model is pretty much changing and the new wisdom is to give it away- that usually leads to better revenue not only through live performance but eventually sales.
nowadays that is the wisdom of turning a profit on songs.
I still have all my vinyl- unfortunately my tastes have changed a lot. I do like the sounds though- would be great to see a hybrid medium of some sort.

edit- Veremita which bands? names? curious.

[Mark E. Hurling]

well, we all can't be perfect...

I ain't perfect, but I'm no damn thief.

[MattJ.D.]

I honestly think vinyl is making a minor comeback. I'm not sure where you live, but there are quite a few vinyl shops where I'm at -- new stuff and tons of used stuff for very cheap. In fact, most of the music purchases I've made over the last two years have been vinyl, and it seems like a lot of bands (at least the ones I listen to) are making vinyl in increasing quantities.

What did you pay typically for a full album used and new, and for singles? I was talking to my mom, and she said back in the 70s, she paid like $35-40 bucks for Chicago's Full Discography, about 45 cent for a single, and around $5 for an album...to me thats not bad prices but of course it would be more now a days....still think for the quality of the music it would be worth it..even more so if you have like a $1500 mid range system

[MattJ.D.]

I ain't perfect, but I'm no damn thief.

To be fair, most of the music I listen to, is from a bunch of dead people. So its not like the artist is really losing out

[Mark E. Hurling]

Why that is a nice sentiment Mark. As a musician who has had my work pirated and watched others make money on my sound without me benifeting- I appreciate that. I also know many others who would be grateful for your sentiments.

Here's one of the seminal influences on why I feel that way. I remember how John Fogerty couldn't play his own music because of a bad contract with a manager. I know it's not quite the same thing, but my temporal lobe wants to perform a Mount Saint Helen's maneuver when I try to resolve the kind of situation that denies an artist the right or benefit of their own work. It's worse than slavery in my own opinion.

[Dastardly]

If Vinyl some how made a come back, who would buy a turn table and a bunch of records? Personally I would never pirate again if vinyl was cheaper and easier to come upon..the sound quality is unmatched.

Define Sound quality?

If you mean fidelity, then you are wrong. Sure a clean record sounds good, but does it really sound as detailed as an uncompressed digital format? Especially the SACD format that has been available for years, but totally flopped because everyone got into highly compressed audio files from Itunes rather than HIFI.

I like records, I buy and listen to them. But I know that unless I blow some serious cash on hifi stylus & cartridge, im not even gonna get close to the detail of CD. Plus most of my records wouldve been presses from a CD quality digital master anyway! Also I have dust and scratches to contend with.

If you want the best hifi option, look into SACD.