You got anything else you want to tell us about how to conduct our political process? We won our freedom. We weren't granted it by royal fiat.Australian politicians meeting ends in 'fist fight'
A meeting of the Australian opposition party ended in a fight after one MP took a swing at a colleague who told him to "have a nice day" as he stormed out during an argument.
By Bonnie Malkin in Sydney
11:35AM BST 02 Jun 2009
Alby Schultz apparently grabbed fellow MP, Chris Pearce, after discussions about the relationship between the Liberal party and their Coalition partners, the Nationals, became heated.
Mr Schultz, an eye-patch wearing "firebrand" who is known for his hatred of the National Party, became so enraged during the conversation about letting a Liberal and a National contest the same seat, that he decided to leave the room.
On his way out, Mr Pearce quipped "Have a nice day", prompting Mr Schultz to grab him by the neck. The pair were separated and have apologised.
"There was a bit of pushing and shoving," a source inside the meeting told website thepunch.com.au
The incident will embarrass Malcolm Turnbull, the leader of the opposition, who had earlier called on his party to unite and warned MPs: "We must not make ourselves the issue."
However, Australian are used to a degree of misbehaviour from their MPs. In 2008, Matt Brown, the police minister in New South Wales, resigned after admitting he had danced in his underwear during a party in his parliamentary office.
In the same year, Troy Buswell, the opposition leader in Western Australia, was forced to resign after admitting that he sniffed the seat of a female colleague after a meeting in his office. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ist-fight.html
While I agree in general with the "he who lives in glass houses rule," Kyle's right here. Outsider, Aussie or not. Getting pissy about it isn't going to change that simple reality.
Has anyone actually tied either side of this spat about dogs with the candidates themselves, or is it "spokesmen" or just people in the media stirring this stuff up?
It starts off with David Axelrod using the story of Romney putting the dog on top of the car with this tweet:
Then Jim Treacher of the Daily Caller discovers the quote from Obama's autobiography:
Then it starts to take off, and Axelrod's tweet gets retweeted by Eric Fehrn of the Romney campaign:
Axelrod is a pretty senior guy in the administration, so I'm surprised at how amateurish Axelrod was with this. He should have known that Obama ate dog, he should have known that his talking about the dog issue would open up a pretty big vulnerability, but he did it anyway. They keep doing this highschool-grade snark, and it keeps blowing up in their faces.
ObamaCare? He poisoned that well irrevocably with his remarks about judicial review by SCOTUS.
The republican war on women. Not now he can't after other stupid remarks from Team Obama.
How about the economy? Yeah that's the ticket.
His blue ribbon panel to look at speculation in the price of gas? Even Norah O'Donnell wouldn't swallow that load.
How about defense or national security? His cuts in the military and remarks to Medvedev put paid to that line of conjecture.
So what's left? Just shitting into his hand and flinging poo to see what might stick.
Many of us don't live in states where our vote count for this office since the corresponding electoral votes were set long before either one of these dudes was on the scene. I happen to live in one such state and people here still get all fired up about presidential politics in the general election phase, and I honestly don't understand why it's worth wasting the energy. If you're in this situation and you're arguing about it, you're doing it to make yourself feel better (or worse). There is no actual end result that you can change.
Those of us who live in such states that also don't have open primaries and don't declare parties are completely out of the game. I still vote but I choose not to get angry or fall in love with particular politicians and their corresponding party. Not only is that a bad idea in general, but I'm not going to get worked up over something I have zero input into.
I guess you can be mildly annoying to others or post silly things to the Internet, but it's not constructive.
Wow, what a witty response from the Rombot. He must have gotten that humor module upgraded.