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Thread: Powerlifting helped Charles Staley's Weightlifting

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    Default Powerlifting helped Charles Staley's Weightlifting

    Perhaps the most pleasant outcome occurred as I gradually started reintroducing power snatches and clean and jerks into my prep. Not only did I discover that I could still perform a workable clean and jerk despite my elbow issues, but in late April – after just five sessions and not having performed a single C&J for more than 6 months – I reached 95% of my best C&J ever, despite weighing significantly less and having not practiced that lift in months. I also reached 98% of my best snatch, after only a handful of sessions on that lift as well.

    http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_.../heavy_lessons

    I actually miss his forum, but nobody used it. Rip gets a nod in the article.

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    It's a good article, and has lots of nice things to say about SS (or SS-like) programming.

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    Considering his low-ish numbers on the strength lifts, I'm guessing his olympic lifts weren't very high, either. I'm not surprised that finishing linear progression and building a base of strength helped his low lifts improve.

    I would be a lot more interested if he improved from a 140kg snatch to a 160kg snatch from strength training alone than from focusing on weightlifting.

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    I also considered posting this article as being noteworthy. Interesting write up on how dialing in on a powerlifting competition might improve all your other desired parameters/metrics.

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    Charles has been a pretty constant "cheerleader" for me. I always like chatting with him about lifting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Berryman View Post
    Considering his low-ish numbers on the strength lifts, I'm guessing his olympic lifts weren't very high, either. I'm not surprised that finishing linear progression and building a base of strength helped his low lifts improve.

    I would be a lot more interested if he improved from a 140kg snatch to a 160kg snatch from strength training alone than from focusing on weightlifting.
    Funny what you consider "low-ish" numbers for a 50+ year old resetting his lifts after an injury...

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    No T, that's just Steve's character shining thru dontcha know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg C View Post
    No T, that's just Steve's character shining thru. Douche, ya know?
    Fixed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    Funny what you consider "low-ish" numbers for a 50+ year old resetting his lifts after an injury...
    I look at numbers absolutely, not relatively. I did miss the part that mentioned he was coming back from an injury, though. But if I take into account that he's coming back from an injury (and assuming he's rebuilding previous strength), then this is even less remarkable, as he would have quickly regained much of the strength and power he had previously (also assuming it wasn't a "life-altering" injury).

    This board is really sensitive whenever I post.
    Last edited by Steve Berryman; 06-05-2012 at 08:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Berryman View Post
    I look at numbers absolutely, not relatively. I did miss the part that mentioned he was coming back from an injury, though. But if I take into account that he's coming back from an injury (and assuming he's rebuilding previous strength), then this is even less remarkable, as he would have quickly regained much of the strength and power he had previously (also assuming it wasn't a "life-altering" injury).

    This board is really sensitive whenever I post.
    Did you actually READ the article?

    If you did, I am confused at how you missed the injury part, since it was a HUGE FACTOR in what he wrote, especially about bench press and his Olympic lifts.

    And, yeah. It is totally unremarkable that a 52 year old male coming back from an injury, who had a PREVIOUS LIFETIME BEST SQUAT OF 365 LBS, hit a 402 lb squat in competition. UN-RE-MARK-ABLE.

    Looking at his numbers ABSOLUTELY:
    402 squat
    253 bench
    501 dead

    In competition.

    As a 52 year old lifter who was lifting at a bodyweight of ~210 lbs.

    We're not sensitive. You're just a jackass.

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    I'm not talking about his powerlifting numbers.

    I'm talking about his improvement in the olympic lifts.

    Take a breath. Get a grip. Maybe take a swig. I'm not insulting this guy. I'm saying his improvement in the olympic lifts is not surprising considering the "low" numbers he had. To clarify, the "low" numbers I was referring to were the starting numbers, not his finishing numbers.

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