Knee caves in when attempting 1RM. Is my stance too wide?

[swiminator]

Maybe it would be a good idea for people to be able to ID who is an actual SS coach, and who is not, when reading advice in the technique forum.

+1

[mwhities]

Maybe it would be a good idea for people to be able to ID who is an actual SS coach, and who is not, when reading advice in the technique forum.

That would mean no one would listen to my advice.

I agree though. Take what others say with a grain of salt and listen to the ones with a mark, since they are SS certified.

[DaddyMantz]

Maybe it would be a good idea for people to be able to ID who is an actual SS coach, and who is not, when reading advice in the technique forum.

+1.

A special designation for people who coach at the SS Seminars like Steve would be helpful as well.

[mrflibble]

Maybe it would be a good idea for people to be able to ID who is an actual SS coach, and who is not, when reading advice in the technique forum.

Yes Please!

While it is important for people to learn to think for themselves and be able to judge a post on its merits in light of their own understanding of the book/s ... I am a bit sick of clueless tools with thousands of posts spouting silly bullshit and giving awful advice to impressionable newbies.

[Brian Jones]

Yes Please!

While it is important for people to learn to think for themselves and be able to judge a post on its merits in light of their own understanding of the book/s ... I am a bit sick of clueless tools with thousands of posts spouting silly bullshit and giving awful advice to impressionable newbies.

As one of the aforementioned "impressionable newbies" I would welcome a SS designation for the coaches - there are quite a few fuckers blowing gas on here. I know that I gave some creedence to the "Senior Member" title incorrectly.

[Mark E. Hurling]

Yes Please!

While it is important for people to learn to think for themselves and be able to judge a post on its merits in light of their own understanding of the book/s ... I am a bit sick of clueless tools with thousands of posts spouting silly bullshit and giving awful advice to impressionable newbies.

Master Bellman who teaches jujitsu has said that people learn in their own individual ways. Some people can read the written word and get it. Others need to see it demonstrated. There are those who can pick it by looking at photos or videos. Then a few need to have it done to them to experience and see how it feels. To certain extent we all learn by some of each of these. Just some are more effective for individuals than others.

Everyone needs to practice the technique or in this case the lift(s) to hardwire the movement into muscle memory and the brain. But all that said, without an instructor, coach, teacher, or sensei; whatever term of art you choose to use, needs to know what they are talking about and how to do it.

Steve, Rip, Juli, stef, Tom, and Ryan all fit that bill. As I have no doubt the others I did not have the good fortune to learn from do as well.

[OCG]

Maybe it would be a good idea for people to be able to ID who is an actual SS coach, and who is not, when reading advice in the technique forum.

Simply changing the title of the poster from "member" or "senior member" to "SS coach" would work.

[veryhrm]

The essential component of the squat is hip drive. The kid is looking up and lifting his chest to get out of the hole. He is front-squatting, and it doesn't matter where the bar is on his back if he he uses the wrong end of his back to drive the load. Have either of you actually read the 3rd edition? This is covered in some detail. Look at the cover illustration, seen below this typing on the left side of the screen.

I'm solid (i believe) on the theory of bar over mid-foot and the impact that has on the rest of the geometry for the different kinds of squats, but my eye for it isn't necessarily great, especially on the dynamic stuff, which is why i asked. (and i'm particularly bad w/ the quartering front camera angle)

However, watching the OP video another 5 times... i'm going to attempt to stand my ground at least in part. In the bottom third out of the hole, especially on the 2nd rep, his back angle looks constant to me. After that, I can see him bringing up the chest too quickly... but is it really so bad that it brings it out of the land of SS LB squats altogether?

Here's another video i just found on YT of the guy doing 4x300 2 weeks ago; from the side. Shows some questionable knee movement in the bottom, but the back angle out of the hole is ok and it looks to me like the hips actually come up slightly faster than the shoulders. Isn't that indicative of hip drive ?

[Mark Rippetoe]

The video above is a shitty angle, and I'm not interested in commenting on it. The OP's stance is 5 inches too wide, and he leads out of the hole with his chest and his face, not his hips. Read the 3rd, watch the DVD, and compare them to his squat. I'm not saying my way is better, but it's not done like this.

[pantheist]

Rip, I saw the original post. These are kids from 4chan who heard about SS, didn't read the book, and did the routine.