OP: With what purpose did you post this?
OP: With what purpose did you post this?
I posted it because from what I read, lots of people think you can't gain muscle without doing a bulk/cut cycle that also results in gaining extra fat - and I think otherwise, so I am going to test if I am correct or not.
I think I can do this by riding the wave of adding just enough calories to promote growth without adding so many as to have much fat storage. If I can gain 15% of my bodyweight within 3-4 months, and not raise my percent body fat, then I will consider it as having worked.
I can't help but correct this garbage when I see it. The BMI is a big joke. Those people were right, at 135lbs you were seriously underweight. The idea that you believe that you were a "normal" weight because the BMI said so speaks volumes. The BMI is at least 1 whole ranking low at all times.Around 1998, I was 5’ 8.5” or so and 135 lbs. Everyone told me I was “too skinny” and underweight. I believed them, though my body mass index was 20.2, and I would have had to lose 12 lbs to be one of the 2% of the US population that is actually underweight.
So far over the last 10 days, I have gained 3.5 lbs while my body fat and waist to hip ratio (6.6% / 0.85) has not changed. This leads me to believe that more than 90% of my gain was muscle.
Waist to hip ratio does a much better job of that than BMI though, and percent body fat is even better - though more complex to measure.
I don't know what you mean by BMI being "1 whole ranking low." I was fat in the belly when my BMI was 24.1 - and my waist-hip ratio was 1.0 - which is at risk of cardiovascular problems - so I am not sure I agree if you are saying that BMI flags people as overweight who are not overweight. As we all know, some very muscular people are flagged as overweight and they are not - and so if your BMI is over 25 but your body fat is below 20%, then BMI failed. It does not work in all cases, but I do think it works for its intended medical screening purpose for more than 99% of the population. Though I wish it were trashed and replaced with waist/hip ratio.
Last edited by trebor; 06-30-2012 at 10:30 PM.
OTOH, i don't see how someone can read Starting Strength, speak approvingly of it's philosophy and then come up with THAT workout plan.
OP, considering that you inject insulin anyway you should do some research (if you haven't already) on how that may be used to maximize the impact of your training.
That's a bit harsh. It's conceivable [/QUOTE]
No it's not. I don't care what the fuck program you're doing, or what steroids you're taking (and you would need to be taking a ton to get even close to that) you do not gain 3lb of muscle in 10 days. And you sure as hell wouldn't do it when you are squatting 100lb. More than likely he is full of shit (I mean that literally, if you are eating a ton then the weight of food in the gut can easily be a kilo or so).
Last edited by 51M0n; 06-30-2012 at 10:40 PM.
As for my workout plan - as far as I can tell, the things I have in it that are not recommended are pushups, pushdowns, flys, back extensions, and crunches. Reg Park's plan had back extensions. Pushdowns - I have small forearms and wanted to pick something to help that. Pushups - I want to be able to do more of them. And I want to run more marathons and stay lean. What I got out of the plan was that low bar full squats and dead lifts are incredibly beneficial and everyone should be doing them, and I am sold on that. I did not take that to mean I could not add in some other things I wanted to work on.
Last edited by trebor; 06-30-2012 at 11:05 PM.
So, knowing what you know, and I am not taking anything but Creatine and Insulin (and I don't know how to use that to my advantage) - what should I be able to gain in 12 weeks considering that I will strive to not let my body fat percent go up much past 7%?
And I plan to squat much more once I am sure my form is decent.
Last edited by trebor; 06-30-2012 at 10:56 PM.
That being said, to do what you are wishing for, eat right, work on foundational basic core movements instead of an encyclopedia worth of movements, some worthless and get stronger. What you are wishing for is possible, just not how you are envisioning.
Oh and remember when you are thinking about shortcuts like creatine and insulin, there are no shortcuts.