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Thread: Found: the only vertical bar path since 1964

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    Quote Originally Posted by B4PJS View Post
    No one cares, but we all find it funny.
    Ther's about 100 pages of it in the 'joined a new gym' thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WayneRooney View Post
    Ther's about 100 pages of it in the 'joined a new gym' thread.
    My point entirely

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rachel Crass View Post
    You all are elitist bastards for making fun of her. Don't you know you should seek her out and show her the light? You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
    I assure you, her form is very likely better than mine. My question was a legit one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rachel Crass View Post
    You all are elitist bastards for making fun of her. Don't you know you should seek her out and show her the light? You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
    I preferred your original answer tbh. Yes she does fill out those shorts nicely, and yes it is a vertical bar path.

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    I have always looked at all versions of cleans like this: it is explosive, athletic movement. Therefore it should be not so forced in terms of execution. Understanding vertical path and a to b and efficiency has unquestionable inclusion in the discussion. But so does natural movement. Anyone I have taught the PC with a strict adherence to vertical bar has refused to continue using them. It just feels awkward and they feel they can lift the weight up but the form hijacks ability.

    Some of the main issues are the arms and double knee bend. Arms straight has them thinking arms slack. So they may have force transfer through straight bones but no tension in the muscles. I think that slows down the movement at the second pull. And with the vertical bar focus the knee bend, after you straighten the knees, is very awkward. Like two separate movement instead of one continuous pattern.

    With a natural movement the bar sways as the body needs it to. Scoops in, rolls up, blasts off. The person can then just focus on force output and speed. The vertical bar may be more efficient for the bar, but is it more efficient for the body? Is it too robotic to maximize the way the body moves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rachel Crass View Post
    There were very few redeeming qualities about that lift, and I think even Rip would agree. If one is going to attempt a vertical bar path, at least employ the intended technique properly. The point of a powerclean is not to be a floor-to-shoulders upright row but a violent explosion at the hips. She missed the entire (yes, the ENTIRE) point of the lift.
    Are we looking at the same video? I'm no fancy-schmancy olympic lifter, but I can clearly see a violent shrug as she jumps, which is how the book teaches one to do the lift explosively.

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