Testosterone Supplementation

[Carlos Daniel]

HGC or Clomid.

Bingo. Nolvadex works too but it's linked to liver cancer in the long term. Aromatase inhibitors work too and I've heard stuff about D-aspartate as well but usually it's clomid.

[Carlos Daniel]

Gotcha. Thanks.

The heart thing is why the Doc has dinged me a bit to get started. Problem is, I read studies that didn't show proof that HRT helped with stopping low test heart disease. Any thoughts?

My second hand information is that test supplementation helps with cardiac health if you have low testosterone. I'd have to check some studies to be sure.

EDIT: Either way, it seems that there is no negative effects on cardiac health, but you still get the other benefits so it's worth thinking about.

[Josiah Moye]

My second hand information is that test supplementation helps with cardiac health if you have low testosterone. I'd have to check some studies to be sure.

I remember hearing this somewhere.

This is disappointing. Not because of the answers, but because it seems there really isn't a good reason.

And I'm sure we've all seen the studies about lowering testosterone levels in the past few decades.

[michael dowling]

I completely agree, women take all sorts of hormones that affect levels in their bodies under the guise of controlling their own healthcare. Breast implants, belly bands, nose jobs, lipo, sex changes etc...

I don't see why if a guy wants to choose to alter his hormone levels he shouldn't be allowed to do it.

[D.W.]

I remember reading an article from Starr i think or another York lifter who wrote that just taking testosterone wouldn't change ones performance.
What would happen if one with normal testosterone levels would supplement testosterone?
Something similar to steroid use?

[b17vic]

Just had a discussion at work about test supplementation. The discussion came around to the question: why can't we just go to the doctor and ask for test enhancement to be above normal levels?

Maybe there could be some type of age restriction on it, say you have to be 25 to do it. Then the doc tests you and makes sure you're taking safe doses and there ya go. I'm not talking taking someone who is low up to normal levels, I'm talking taking someone who is normal to high levels, but safely with the guidance of a specialized doctor.

You're allowed to take hormones to prevent pregnancy, you're allowed to cut up your body to get fat sucked out, bodyparts altered, take happy pills, etc. But you can't elect to take testosterone enhancement to maximize your potential in that area. What's the reasoning for not allowing this?

The reason we can't is because a bunch of cunts are in charge who make the rules. They always know whats best for us don't they! ?

[jep6095]

Josiah, a water cooler discussion and a discussion with your/a doctor are two different things. Have you thought to ask?

The medical "profession" deals with numbers on a chart. As long as you're within "x" range, they have been told you're fine. However, you are the customer. It is actually common for someone in their 20s to be dealing with low range testosterone. Should they be supplemented? Yup. That's why T-clinics are popping up all over the nation and why they're wildly successful. Because it's their business to say "yes" to questions such as yours. But go talk to someone. Be shot down from your doctor (or two) before you spout off on the internet that "this is how it is." Because even if you're in the mid-range of where you're supposed to be, they'll help you get to the higher range of the number chart so you feel better.

And Oldster? I don't know you nor have I ever responded to anything you've written so it's unfortunate that this is the first time; but; please; listen to your doctor. There is no reason why you can't try a small dosage and go from there. You'll feel better physically and mentally. It will have a positive impact in basically all areas of your life. If I'm wrong, you can come back and publicly tell me how wrong I was.

But I'm not.

jp

[Oldster]

And Oldster? I don't know you nor have I ever responded to anything you've written so it's unfortunate that this is the first time;

There always has to be a first time, plus most of what I post is probably in jibberish. I'm pleased to make your acquaintance, Miss!

but; please; listen to your doctor. There is no reason why you can't try a small dosage and go from there. You'll feel better physically and mentally. It will have a positive impact in basically all areas of your life. If I'm wrong, you can come back and publicly tell me how wrong I was.

But I'm not.

Well, between what Carlos, my brother and now you say, I'll go in and talk with him again on Monday since I have an appointment to be there for a blood draw. I'll try and remember to let you know what he has to say.

[Carlos Daniel]

There always has to be a first time, plus most of what I post is probably in jibberish. I'm pleased to make your acquaintance, Sir!

The Canadian Hammer is a she, strange as that may be. Her name is Juli. But on a forum with girls called Tbone and spar, it's easy to make that mistake.

[Oldster]

The Canadian Hammer is a she, strange as that may be. Her name is Juli. But on a forum with girls called Tbone and spar, it's easy to make that mistake.

Whoopsy dayser, my apologies extended!