Talking crap on Rip and Marty will get you nowhere, get off the computer and workout.
One workout usually takes 1-2 hours. There are 22 hours left. Should I be working the whole time???
Originally Posted by G. Renzinator
I did not insult Rippetoe or Marty in any way other than stating that their advice on getting 3-4lbs per inch of height is complete bullshit for normal people. Just stated an obvious fact. That's it. So that all sides of the story are seen and not just theirs.
The number of people who agreed with me just shows that they were thinking the same way.
I will probably get banned very soon but at least ignorant people may come to this topic and see the truth unless it gets deleted.
Last edited by Marine; 07-28-2012 at 02:19 PM.
Were they talking about normal people or elite athletes? You said yourself they mention Rips ideal weight to have been more successful. It has been said by many that this is mostly impossible without the use of drugs, and it has also been said by many that a lot of pro athletes are not beneath using drugs for performance enhancement. They are not going to flat out say in a publicly posted interview that illegal drugs are necessary for this (public promotion of illegal drugs?), why does this bother you? Its common sense.
Originally Posted by Marine
I do not see what your argument is or why you are so upset about this. Is it because YOU will never be an elite lifter/bodybuilder without the use of drugs? Sorry, welcome to the real world.
Last edited by gjsuicide; 07-28-2012 at 03:03 PM.
Marine, I really hope you don't think you're being original, or insightful.
Marine = Trebor? Discuss.
"Marine" you need to adapt and overcome.
Don't forget improvise.
Originally Posted by G. Renzinator
Trebor thinks that weighing 120lbs and doing 14 pullups is the ideal male physique.
Originally Posted by Kazzin
Marine thinks that people should distinguish between natural and enhanced potential of the human body when telling noobs to gain weight and maximize their potential.
Similar? I don't see it.
Quick input from a newbie! I have been taking my "training" seriously since about March of this year and I am still a novice. I set a goal to do a strongman competition sometime in the future, and in doing so I decided that there was a certain weight that I was going to have to achieve to not make a fool of myself. I am 6'5" tall so I figured I was going to have to get up to around 300 (and this may be true), but I think this was backwards thinking. So I set out from 230 to eat my way up and I am now at 260. The results have been good and bad. Sure, my lifts are all still going up, but I have had some embarrassing health problems as well (lack of lead in the pencil from time to time....my wife was thrilled as you would expect). So I have been re thinking this strategy. What I want to know is why everyone gets the idea that they have to be at a certain weight, and I understand weight classes for competitions, rather than allowing their lifts to dictate where their weight goes? I now wish that rather than going crazy on the food and trying to get to 300, I would have allowed my numbers to dictate how much I need. If I am not recovering, or get stuck....then uping the food intake, not just picking a number and getting after it.
Too much of this problem comes from people thinking they need to be constantly gaining weight to gain strength. This may be true for people at the limits of their potential but most of us are at the beginner to intermediate level. All that happens is you have a heap of obese people with intermediate level lift. This level of lifter does not need to be gaining a couple lbs a week to gain strength. If you can't get stronger look at your training.
Many would be better off keeping weight steady for a while and the when your at reasonable body fat levels look at slowly increasing weight to grow some muscle.
Last edited by Bazza20; 07-28-2012 at 04:33 PM.