How can I fit in pendlay rows into the program without eliminating PCs or pull ups?

[tzanghi]

Funny, I thought deadlifting was the best way to get your deadlift up.

I would think the same, but he said it haha. Anyways, I think he meant that you can't deadlift 2-3 times per week, so you deadlift once and add cleans as well because they allow recovery. My point was only that they are not a waste of time, not that they are the end-all-be-all.

[GHK]

My current Deadlift max is 505 (Conventional) I will be 51 friday, 5'10" @ 192 lbs. I never did Power Cleans. Good Mornings are a key exercise for me.

I actually found cleans hit my squats as I do a 4 day split. So I do heavy rows, just like the old guys form the 70s. Do some light stiff legs, but them guten morgens, done in the past... btw nice Deads.

[skid]

I workout twice a week. Mondays squats/presses/benchpress (3 sets each), Thursdays pullups (3 sets)/powercleans (2 sets)/pendlay rows (2 sets)/deadlifts (1 set)/curls (2 sets). Seems to work for me. Less warm up as well as the same muscles are used in different ways...

[pigeons=protein]

Plenty of time for specialization later, don't fuck up the program.

[Briks42]

OP, I think that if you want to get the upper/middle back benefit of rows (which can be significant) but are too wiped to do them after deadlifts, you should try a different type of row. Seated cable rows or barbell/dumbell rows with some sort of support could be helpful. I've recently started doing seated cable rows and love the results so far.

[pigeons=protein]

Just in case anyone trains at home like I do:
A rope, a handle, a loading pin, a pullup bar, and some barbell plates make an awesome "cable machine"

[Dastardly]

Why would you need a cable machine if you have both a rope and a pull up bar?

[pigeons=protein]

To do rows (horizontal pulling feels different than vertical pulling).
And also to do straight arm pulldowns AFTER rope climbing/pullups for destroying the lats further.

[kinski]

One way to get your rear delts without resorting to anything potentially taxing would be to toss in a few sets of tucked front levers from the pullup bar. You could do those before/after/during pullups, or even between squat/press/deadlift sets.
You just grab the pullup bar like your going to do a pullup, and raise your hips and torso toward the ceiling as if trying to do an inverted row without any foot support.
Those definitely build up rear delt/perpindicular rowing strength, and shouldn't impair recovery or time management. If you built up to a full front lever or even a straddle you'd have some great rowing strength.

[osv2]

I do Pendlay Rows after Power Cleans, and I do pull-ups after DLs (actually, I even superset Rows with ab-wheel rollouts, and pull-ups with Janda situps to add some direct ab work).

Another idea is to rotate Back Extensions/Chins pair (as per example program found in SS) with Pendlay Rows (i.e., doing each every other Bench day). Reminder: in this variation found in SS you also rotate DLs with Cleans (doing each every other Press day).