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    Quote Originally Posted by veryhrm View Post
    170, yes, sort-of (he is now for squats; seemingly unwilling to entertain for presses), yes (3 days), no.

    (it's been covered in his 3 or 4 threads on the subject)



    Good luck, shalom, vaya con dios.
    Considering what veryhrm said, and assuming he's right, if I were you I would drop squats from the Wednesday session and up the protein intake to between 200-250g per day. Leave calories where they are at.

    And you really need to microload bench and press i.e 1kg per session. Do one more reset, work your way back up and make sure your form is right. Hopefully you make some more gains then you can switch to a Texas Method style program or start periodizing.

    Other than that, just relax, you're only 16 and 180lbs. You're doing well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fury View Post
    Considering what veryhrm said, and assuming he's right, if I were you I would drop squats from the Wednesday session and up the protein intake to between 200-250g per day. Leave calories where they are at.

    And you really need to microload bench and press i.e 1kg per session. Do one more reset, work your way back up and make sure your form is right. Hopefully you make some more gains then you can switch to a Texas Method style program or start periodizing.

    Other than that, just relax, you're only 16 and 180lbs. You're doing well.
    Ok thanks for your help, and about 1kg plates i will try 2 look for them...So wouldn't i benefit more from changing ONLY the squat like in the linear version of bill star? cuz that way i can raise 2.5kg each week, but if ill try to reset my squat again to 92.5-95
    it will only take more than 1 week to 107.5 (the weight i failed) and even if i will be able to raise it to 100 ill probably fail 100-102.5 again and there wont be any linear progression. and with the linear version for the squat, by the time ill get to 100 with the normal 2.5 raises per workout ill probably fail the 100kg sets, with the linear version of bill star ill almost 100% get to 100kg without fail and need to reset.
    And doing one heavy set is much easier and not just physically, and it will be easier to raise my lifting weight in the deadlift and all of the other exercises...
    and do you think i would've done SS with much heavier weights if i would've started it when will be 18 Yold?

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    I was 17-18years old and topped at a chubby 170lbs. best squat back then was 300x3, deadlift 325x3, and presssing 135, didn't bench due to injury.

    Decided I was eating garbage filled with hippo feces and not even getting 100g protein. I ate better and LESS and my lifts still went up. Most I ate was 1800, best lifts on that was 352/193/403.

    I guess my point is that you are definitely doing something wrong because if I ate 3.5-4k, I could have become a beast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonsky View Post
    I was 17-18years old and topped at a chubby 170lbs. best squat back then was 300x3, deadlift 325x3, and presssing 135, didn't bench due to injury.

    Decided I was eating garbage filled with hippo feces and not even getting 100g protein. I ate better and LESS and my lifts still went up. Most I ate was 1800, best lifts on that was 352/193/403.

    I guess my point is that you are definitely doing something wrong because if I ate 3.5-4k, I could have become a beast.
    Yea i think that i'm doing something wrong too, but i don't know what

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    Quote Originally Posted by yosi231 View Post
    Yea i think that i'm doing something wrong too, but i don't know what
    Just because someone lifts more weight than you doesn't necessarily mean you're doing something wrong. Some people get up to a 220kg squat for 3 x 5 but that doesn't mean the rest of us aren't training properly.

    The point is, don't compare yourself to what others are lifting. Just train smart, eat well and do the best you can do and in the end, you will be a hell of a lot stronger than what you were when you started.

    Whatever program you go to, just make sure you have increased your protein intake and aren't trying to progress a squat 3 x a week. You need a light day in there or a day off squatting.

    As for the 1kg plates, I use ankle weights that are 500g each. It might be easier for you to get a hold of those.

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    How are ankle weights going to help your press? if you're doing handstand push-ups maybe i could see it, but otherwise the ROM is miniscule.

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    Ok thanks to all of you, rips answer to me is that i'm not doing the program...and he didn't explain why, although i told him my technique is good and i'm eating and resting well...
    I guess he said it because it's the easiest thing to do

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    Quote Originally Posted by veryhrm View Post
    How are ankle weights going to help your press? if you're doing handstand push-ups maybe i could see it, but otherwise the ROM is miniscule.
    You put the ankle weights on the sleeves. I guess they're cheaper, more easily attainable than fractional plates. I can walk into any sports shop in town and find ankle weights, but I've had to order my lb micro-plates and kg change plates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yosi231 View Post
    Ok thanks to all of you, rips answer to me is that i'm not doing the program...and he didn't explain why, although i told him my technique is good and i'm eating and resting well...
    I guess he said it because it's the easiest thing to do
    Have you read his book? Are you actually doing the program? Honestly get your hands on the microplates or something.

    I get the impression from you that you miss the workout once and decide to reset. only make 2.5KG jumps. if you fail to finish your sets of 105, try 105 next workout. and then try it again the next workout. if you miss it three times, then consider the reset.

    After that reset, make 1KG jumps through the "dangerzone" you were failing last time.

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