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Thread: Stuck. Nutritional Intervention or Training Intervention?

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    Default Stuck. Nutritional Intervention or Training Intervention?

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    Age: 21
    Weight: 195 lbs
    BF: ~18-20% BF
    Height: 6 ft, 2 in
    Training SS LP since October, inconsistently.

    Current Lifts:
    Squat: 250 lbs 3x5
    Bench: 155 lbs 3x5
    Press: 95 lbs 3x5
    Deadlift: 295 lbs 1x5
    Chins: 5-6 BW per set on a good day

    Food Intake:
    ~200 g protein
    300-350g carbs (higher end on training days)
    ~100 g fat
    Used to measure, then lost my scale and figured I shouldn't be "neurotic" as many people accused me of being so I didn't order a new one.

    Question:

    I'm 21, about 195 lbs, began training on SS LP one year ago (no powercleans because of school gym). Got to 270 lbs 3x5 squat in May. Couldn't lift until I began an internship at the end of May. Been stuck since the summer, with adequate food intake. Just got fatter around waist and under scapulae. Squat is stuck at about 250 lbs. Also stuck with all the upper body movements (press, bench, even chins): I have yet to break 100 lbs in the press and yet to break 175 lbs in the bench. Deadlift has yet to break 300 lbs. My chins have not gone over 10 per set in a while. Everything is way harder than I feel it needs to be with my training history (not much), age, food intake, etc.

    What should I do? Gain more weight? Change programming? I should have easily squatted 315 lbs and benched over 200 lbs by now for 3x5. Not to mention my chin up numbers should be in the double digits per set. What is a young man to do?

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    Let's see what the community thinks first. Guys?

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    Get a scale again. Fuck people's ill-informed opinions.
    Eat more.
    How's your rest & recovery?

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    "Nom, nom, nom".

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    Survey says you're nutrition looks fairly tight. Maybe a little low on the pro, and a little high on the carbs, but that's nit picking to me. Just find a way to drop the "in-" from inconsistently and do a small reset then get back to Feigenbro in a couple months. I started SS at 33 and did far better than that with likely a worse diet, YNDTP.

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    For starters, you should not double post your question to both Andy and Jordan. They both are busy and they do this for free. OP, you wrote your own answer. "Training SS LP since October, inconsistently." This is why you feel you have put on fat with little strength gains. Inconsistent training equals poor results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordan Feigenbaum View Post
    Let's see what the community thinks first. Guys?
    I think we need to know more about what bodyweight/bodyfat levels he started at, and how his body composition changed between when he could squat 270 to now, when he claims to be stuck at 250.

    But short story is he needs to gain 50 lbs and DTFP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by esam915 View Post
    Training SS LP since October, inconsistently.
    I'd suggest training consistently before you decide to change anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by esam915 View Post
    Training SS LP since October, inconsistently.
    That stuck out to me the most. Define inconsistently.

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    Can I try?

    To answer OP's question... Gain weight, and keep doing LP.

    -Up protein to 250g every day
    -Keep carbs high on training days, maybe less on rest days (250ish)
    -Less fat on training days (if you're looking to maintain/lose BF)

    Following Jordan's supplement sticky has done wonders for me.
    Whey, BCAAs, Creatine, Vit D, etc. should all be considered.

    I am just finishing up my first successful LP without any roadblocks (AKA Disc herniations)
    6'4", 240lbs, guessing 15% bf... 325lb Sq/355lb Dead/265lb Bench/170lb OP/60lb+BW Chins all for 3 sets of 5 (1 set for deads of course)

    Also, you're tall like me, so use a belt!
    On deads, I use a 4" belt, but I flip it around so the buckle is against my spine.
    Makes it exponentially easier for pulling from the floor, if you're long legged, like myself.

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