Gym Class ruin gains?

[Will Morris]

I have to say, I'm a bit confused by the recommendations in this thread. The kid says he's currently eating 4500 calories a day, and he's going to add approximately 90 minutes of cardio once a week. Even if he's working very hard, I can't imagine he's burning more than 2000 calories as a result of this, and it's probably more like 1000. Why is it necessary for him to add an extra 10,000 calories a week to compensate for this?

He's a 17 year old male with toxic levels of testosterone coursing through his veins. He wants to get bigger and stronger. Why wouldn't he add 10,000 calories per week?

[rmckenzie711]

Just tell your gym teacher that your multifidus is sore and you don't want to risk permanent injury.

It's not like you can actually fail gym class.

Pretty easy to fail. Its not like high school gym where you just basically fuck around and just do one "fitness test" and thats all and play sports every class. We have individual assesments every week, tests,assignments

[Mark Rippetoe]

Sure, but what could he be doing that's so stressful that he needs such a huge caloric excess? Even if he were adding an extra day of legitimate training, that seems like overkill.

Furthermore, aren't these extra calories just going to make him fat? Assuming that the 4500 calories was an appropriate amount for him to be eating before, isn't he essentially adding an extra 1000+ calorie surplus every day without much in the way of additional strength/hypertrophy stimulus? Perhaps that's an acceptable tradeoff in exchange for continued progress, but it seems like that's a significant drawback of this approach.

Just let us handle this, okay?

[sbhikes]

She misguidedly thinks teenagers in her day had no cares or concerns.

No, I guess I misguidedly think teenaged boys didn't give a shit about how many calories they ate. The just ate everything they could get their hands on. Calories were for girls to worry about.

[Ken Edwards]

No, I guess I misguidedly think teenaged boys didn't give a shit about how many calories they ate. The just ate everything they could get their hands on. Calories were for girls to worry about.

Was teenage boy, can confirm.

[rmckenzie711]

Actually yeah, most guys now a days count their "macros" so they can get shredded and have l ripped six pack abs lol

[Mark Rippetoe]

lol

[Bryan Dobson]

Actually yeah, most guys now a days count their "macros" so they can get shredded and have l ripped six pack abs lol

Sounds like girl-like behavior.

[PowerDaClean]

I count how many weeks until I can S/B/D X amount of weight for X amount of reps.

Then again, I don't consider myself to be a typical teenager.

[Bryan Dobson]

I count how many weeks until I can S/B/D X amount of weight for X amount of reps.

Then again, I don't consider myself to be a typical teenager.

You are fortunate to have the knowledge and mindfulness of purpose at your age.