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    Default Are olympic lifts necessary for strong deadlifts

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    Hello,

    I hate olympic lifts and don't program them at all (I'm an intermediate on 4 day split).

    Will my deadlift max not be what it could be because I don't do olympic lifts?

    Thanks,

    Matt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Wolf View Post
    You have people power cleaning 240 after just deadlifting a few times?!!! Wow. That's entirely unrepresented on the forum. Strange. Took me forever to get to 235. . . .

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    No. I take them back to a proper weight to LEARN the deadlift, at which they can do it with correct technique. For people who have deadlifted a long time and gotten reasonably strong doing it another way, that often takes more time than people who don't have a bunch of ingrained bad habits to weed out. I'm referring to people who, upon ramping back up with correct form and surpassing their old, reasonably strong deadlift PRs, then power clean heavy 2 days later. Then repeat that process several more times, alternating the DL and PC every workout, PRing the DL while cleaning 2 plates or more the next workout, which is 2-3 days later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamsmuts View Post
    You have people power cleaning 240 after just deadlifting a few times?!!! Wow. That's entirely unrepresented on the forum.
    Not entirely. I power cleaned 242 the first time we maxed in college, and I hadn't done much deadlifting before that (or much of any real lifting in high school). It does happen occasionally.

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    Though to be fair, that was well before I joined the forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt-Panz View Post
    Will my deadlift max not be what it could be because I don't do olympic lifts?
    To answer the question directly, you don't need to worry about the Olympic lifts if you don't want to. The overwhelming majority of competitive powerlifters don't do any variant of them.

    "Specificity" trumps all here. Want a better deadlift? Deadlift more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    The overwhelming majority of competitive powerlifters don't do any variant of them.
    Wow is this true? If so that's great news.

    Can any SS coach attest to that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt-Panz View Post
    Wow is this true? If so that's great news.

    Can any SS coach attest to that?
    Yep. This is the case. Competitive powerlifters do not, in general, train the Olympic lifts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Herbison View Post
    Not entirely. I power cleaned 242 the first time we maxed in college, and I hadn't done much deadlifting before that (or much of any real lifting in high school). It does happen occasionally.
    Sounds like you are on the right side of the curve.

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