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    we are approaching analysis paralysis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiburon View Post
    analysis paralysis
    QF how fucking often this happens.

    I suppose it's inevitable with the intersection of the Internet and lifting, but it would be nice if it happened less often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spar View Post
    QF how fucking often this happens.

    I suppose it's inevitable with the intersection of the Internet and lifting, but it would be nice if it happened less often.
    Yes, but he does have some legitimate issues with his squat. If you look at his log, he has added weight. He is having problems shifting too far forward in the hole and GMing a little. I have some of the same issues actually. He is still advancing and making great progress on his DL. So even though he is "thinking" about his technique, I don't think he is paralyzed and giving up at this point.

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    Nothing paralyzed about it. Is the squat a mental block for me? Yes. But I'm not stopping because of that. I've gone from the bar to 120 in less than a month so far. Now is just the point where the form may be limiting the progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiburon View Post
    we are approaching analysis paralysis
    Approach (transitive verb): to draw closer to

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiburon View Post
    Approach (transitive verb): to draw closer to
    I'm probably just in a bad mood, but it was the other stuff afterwards (and spar's comment) that got me going. The whole squat, add weight, squat, repeat crap didn't really help him out at all. That is what he is doing! Take a minute to look at his log, and actually try to help him out. Even with some of the major issues he has with his squat, he is still working to get better. He has added a lot of weight (as he mentions), and his form is improving. He is getting much better depth now and just has to work on the leaning issue.
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    I still struggle with leaning over a little bit. The things that helped me were keeping my head/chest up. I also put my arms under the bar, that helped as well. I still don't have it all figured out, but maybe use some of those cues to help out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callador View Post
    I'm probably just in a bad mood, but it was the other stuff afterwards (and spar's comment) that got me going.
    I actually thought I was responding to a different thread. Sorry, Schwiggity.

    While Tiburon's general sentiment is true, as far as I can tell, Schwiggity has been doing his due diligence, posting form checks instead of micro-analyzing his purely verbal self-reporting, trying to incorporate advice as much as he can without making up a zillion and one rationalizations why he is a special snowflake, etc. I haven't been following his threads that carefully, since he seems to have plenty of help from guys who have experience training at high bodyfat, and I figure that's better help than I could provide.

    But "analysis paralysis" happens a lot in Internet coaching, and I tend to get frustrated with it, since posting a decent form check leads to actual improvement 90% of the time, whereas analyzing imaginary or still-hypothetical problems and talking the tiny nuances of advice to death instead of just trying to implement corrections and see what happens pretty reliably wastes everyone's time.

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    I get flexible enough to squat by using the trap bar to pull me down. I still had some flexible to work on but it helped a lot. What about deads?

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    I had a lot of issues with squats (still do to some extent) but I hurt myself several times trying to get depth when I wasn't flexible enough to do it, I was basically dropping my chest and losing tightness in order to hit depth. I worked this pretty simple drill for a month and it worked wonders for me, I still do it at least ten times a day:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1jC1sWTUFc

    Also keeping my head down helped with back pain a lot.

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    So I tried out High-Bar squats like John was suggesting. I have been pussy footing around with squats for a week or so, so I dropped the weight from 125 of my highest LB squat to 105 for the HB ones. Not really sure what these are, but they're not high-bar squats from what I can tell. I think my knees aren't going far enough forward so if I try to get upright, the bar is no longer over the midfoot. This is probably what happened in the 60lb. warm-up set. I tried to get more upright and completely lost my balance.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeIhmx2mkPk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Dx41KndY4M

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNJSLNVuTV4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYTVVB5q0NE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpbaeVJY_LM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb-QvEYjtFk

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