Deadlift Trainer Debate - Form Check

[SSDino]

Agreed. The fact that everybody cares and aims to help eachother so we can all improve is something I really admire about people on this forum

[carson]

If you are in Chicago you have access to one of the best Starting Strength Gyms in the country with some of the best coaches. Why waste your time with these other places? Go to Chicago Strength and Conditioning and get some proper coaching.

[Adam Franklin]

If you don't bother to listen: Basically he says to shift the weight backwards onto your heels and you'll get a better deadlift starting position with the shoulders just over the bar.

I have a few observations from this video.

2. He doesn't demonstrate his method with a heavy load. I would bet the bar position and shoulder position correct to be over mid-foot when a heavy weight is pulled.

This^. Every heavy deadlift will leave the ground in this position, regardless of what you, me, or Mr. Cauchi wants.

If you are in Chicago you have access to one of the best Starting Strength Gyms in the country with some of the best coaches. Why waste your time with these other places? Go to Chicago Strength and Conditioning and get some proper coaching.

This^ as well!!!

[mr.kapowski]

My trainer sent over this video from the NSCA: https://www.nsca.com/Videos/Exercise...que__Deadlift/

This is showing the proper form being the hips much lower than the shoulders. Thoughts?

[SSDino]

Does that bar path look correct to you Mr Kapowski? That's the result of squatting the weight up..

Thoughts: Stop discussing this shit, do the 5 setup, leave your trainer and go to starting strength.

[SSDino]

Watch:

Deadlifting 315 lbs. with BAD FORM To Prove A Point - YouTube
Common Deadlift Errors ft. Austin Baraki - Starting Strength Coach - YouTube

[Ben Patterson]

My trainer sent over this video from the NSCA: https://www.nsca.com/Videos/Exercise...que__Deadlift/

This is showing the proper form being the hips much lower than the shoulders. Thoughts?

Again, this is not the model we (The SS community) use for the deadlift. The arguments for the model are laid out in SSBBT and so don't need repeating here.

The folks at the NSCA want you to squat the weight off the floor, which we know is inefficient for pulling heavy weights.

[melody]

Are your 45 lbs plates a smaller diameter than normal?

[Brodie Butland]

My trainer sent over this video from the NSCA: https://www.nsca.com/Videos/Exercise...que__Deadlift/

This is showing the proper form being the hips much lower than the shoulders. Thoughts?

If you can find a single video example of a max or near max effort deadlift by a male where the bar leaves the floor with low hips or with the scapula behind the bar, please send it to me and I'll give you $150. Serious offer. Because then I can send it to Rip and get $300. He's had the same offer open for at least five years, and so far no one has collected.

[SSDino]

Do you mean that females squat the weight?