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    Quote Originally Posted by JCavin View Post
    Same here. It doesn't look like he had to deload for an entire year. That alone will set you back 3 months+.
    what are you talking about? 5/3/1 has a deload every 4 weeks, and he has the deloads in his log

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    Those are some great results! I''ve said it in other threads, but I think 5/3/1 could even be run by a novice. It may not get results as fast as SS could, but over a 3 year lifting period, there wouldn't be much of a difference between someone starting with SS and then doing TM.

    If I ran 5/3/1, I would do some squats on DL day. I would also do the 4 day split, since I pretty much do a split right now. I might not do the deload weeks the first couple of months, but I would start to do them as things got heavier.

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    This guy began with a 220x2 bench, 405lb squat and a 400x7 (bounced) deadlift.

    He had clearly been lifting a while and had numbers which were good for his size. Its safe to say that his novice gains were long out of the way. Now how does one explain the HUGE increase in mass, and a whole new year of rapid gains. If he was was eating very poorly to begin with and finally let loose on cramming food like a madman. Then maybe.

    Im going to have to look through this blog, but something screams "a little bit of AAS".

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    Quote Originally Posted by stonerider View Post
    what are you talking about? 5/3/1 has a deload every 4 weeks, and he has the deloads in his log
    Sorry, meant to say stalling.

    He recommends a 10% drop if you stall so that is 30+lbs once you actually stall. You also add weight to the bar at a rate of NO MORE than 10lbs per cycle. That's at least 3 months is all i'm saying.

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    re: dastardly

    1) you aren't seeing his legs, it's possible that his biggest mass gains were in his upper chest/back area

    2) it really doesn't look like he got gained THAT much mass anyway

    3) he only put about 100lbs on his squat and deadlift, and around 70lbs on his bench in that year

    4) that's what happens when someone trains hard for a year straight

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    I'm inclined to agree with Stonerider.

    Seems like it would be possible to me if someone works their ass off for a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stonerider View Post
    4) that's what happens when someone trains hard for a year straight
    But it seemed he had ALREADY been training hard for a year straight or more. That he had come to the point that normal people get stuck or slow down. Based on his before pictures he looked like an average guy, not someone gifted with a naturally jacked-to-fuck body. Diligent programming could easily explain the gains in the lifts. But physique-wise its difficult to swallow. Not saying its not legit or anything, he may have bulked like mofo then done a cut. The physique change is extremely impressive bordering on impossible. With the changes in physique he does have, the huge shoulders, arms, traps, chest. I would actually expect MORE of a jump in Bench & Dealift.
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    His DL and Squat were already good compared to his BW before he even started. That kind of explains the "smaller" gains on Squats.
    And yes he gained a lot of musclemass while maintaining bodyfat. IMHO anyway.
    Either way he worked hard, no doubt. Definitely proving that 5/3/1 can work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dastardly View Post
    But it seemed he had ALREADY been training hard for a year straight or more. That he had come to the point that normal people get stuck or slow down. Based on his before pictures he looked like an average guy, not someone gifted with a naturally jacked-to-fuck body. Diligent programming could easily explain the gains in the lifts. But physique-wise its difficult to swallow. Not saying its not legit or anything, he may have bulked like mofo then done a cut. The physique change is extremely impressive bordering on impossible. With the changes in physique he does have, the huge shoulders, arms, traps, chest. I would actually expect MORE of a jump in Bench & Dealift.
    man, you are one retarded fuck-up

    - his before/after pics from the front are taken at different angles, so it's hard to tell how big he actually looked in the before pic

    - his before/after pics from the back aren't even close to borderline impossible -- you can tell he was pretty big to begin with

    - so what if he had already been training hard for a year or more? the main reason "normal people" get stuck or slow down is because they're inconsistent and mentally weak... if you're basing your expectations off of people on this board and others you see at the gym, you're doing it wrong.. most people on this board don't know how to sack up and train hard/intelligently

    - oh and you're an idiot; i just wanted to say that again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dastardly View Post
    But it seemed he had ALREADY been training hard for a year straight or more. That he had come to the point that normal people get stuck or slow down. Based on his before pictures he looked like an average guy, not someone gifted with a naturally jacked-to-fuck body. Diligent programming could easily explain the gains in the lifts. But physique-wise its difficult to swallow. Not saying its not legit or anything, he may have bulked like mofo then done a cut. The physique change is extremely impressive bordering on impossible. With the changes in physique he does have, the huge shoulders, arms, traps, chest. I would actually expect MORE of a jump in Bench & Dealift.
    I think it is still possible, even without PED's.

    After 1 year of training, I had around a 370 bench, 460 squat, and 550 dl. That was a year of consistant lifting, and I only took a few days off before/after my meet. Now I have been lifting for 3 more months this year, and I have continued to move my bench up to 405 (+35lbs), squat 525 (+75lbs.. this was technique issues as well), and I am testing my DL today. I did do a deload on it, so it might not be much higher than it was at the end of the year. I am a bigger guy, but I did all of this while maintaining BW. I didn't eat to gain weight, since I really don't want to get heavier. I'm just trying to get stronger/maintain BW (at this time).

    There are other guys doing well in their second/third year of lifting. Hamburger is still making great gains, and Skiing is making phenomenal progress for his second year of lifitng.

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