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About 8 years ago, I formulated the idea of building a house for my family, and I realized that I was too weak to make that happen, so I undertook the journey of becoming stronger. A google search led me to other systems, which (through my highly-refined BS-detectors) led me to your site, which led me to a 500-lb deadlift and a 205lb press. Stronger than the average meat-head.
Now I'm finally building my house. This is relevant because I could not be doing this if I wasn't "more useful in general", let alone harder to kill. I give a lot of credit for my physical condition, the one that allows me to do this, to Starting Strength.
Because of my developed strength, I am able to carry out sub-maximal tasks all day long without a second thought. I thought this was crap when I first read Rip's thoughts on it, but it WORKS! Those "sub-maximal" tasks would destroy an untrained person and I just sweat my way through them.
Another significant observation: I have been working my ass off for four weeks on this project. I have lost four inches off of my waist measurement in those four weeks. My body-weight has held constant at 265 pounds. My wife says that I feel *hard* when she hugs me. Looking in the mirror, it's hard to believe the physical changes that are happening as a result of hard work. This reinforces my idea that dieting is BS, and that the only solution to the modern obesity epidemic is hard, sustained, daily physical work. I. Am. Loving. This!
I've been reading this forum all weekend, and haven't run across this on here (or anywhere else that I can see online). I'm starting Starting Strength as a fatass (34, 225 lbs, 35% BF) who also does triathlons (see where all cardio gets you?), all based off the quote of "a stronger athlete is a better athlete."
I'm sure there will be some sarcasm of "Why the hell would you put your body through the tri?", which I fully understand, but I enjoy it. The main goal is to have better swim/bike/run times. Lifting goals are to get to 2x BW for squat and DL, bench 1.5x BW, and press BW.
That said, here's the Q:
At what point will my body and the CNS see that lifting M/W/F on a linear progression and running/swimming on T/R/S is too much, and how will it let me know?
Don't structure your workouts like that. I train a fairly successful tri-athlete and started her off on the SS program about a year ago. She ran or biked every day during the week (often both) and swam on weekends ( I had nothing to do with her tri-training).
Twice a week training was more productive than three times per week. Even with that...expect some bad days, especially on the squat and you won't get workout to workout progression like a normal lifter. Eke out gains where you can but don't force the issue if it ain't there, and some days it won't be.
Training you people tests my patience.
Fair enough. How can I combine the two, taking into consideration that tri season would start around July 1 and run through Sept. 15? Also noting that I'm already a fat ass who can likely change some body comp.
You can't combine the two and do either well. Sorry.
What you do is figure out how long it will take you to get into shape for your July 1st start of season. For the sake of argument, Let's say it's six months - meaning you need to start on January 1st. That would mean you have three months (Oct, Nov, Dec) for strength training. For those three months, just do SS - nothing else. In my experience, SS all by itself is enough to maintain your cardiovascular capacity at a reasonable level. You'll be out of shape of course, but it won't be like starting from square one. Your train up after Jan 1 will go better as well since you'll be stronger. You could also take advantage of that three month period to clean up your diet - don't eat less, but better, mainly meat and vegetables.
Maybe you could think about doing "seasonal" training like football players do. Once your tri-season is done, you could concentrate SS for a few months. Then when you go back to tri next season you will be doing so from a stronger base ...
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