elong at the gym, compared to past <1 month attempts when I hated going each single time. I don't want to get overconfident though so I want to kind of present what I've learned as an average Joe hoping that there are no pitfalls in my knowledge or mindset. Also, my goals are: Build lower body strength with squats, eventually move to exclusively weighted bodyweight exercises for upper body. I basically want to be impressive above the bar, and below it. Stats:
Some wisdom I consider true for now:
This is so fascinatingly fucked up that I'm going to deal with it on the podcast I record today. It will be up Friday.
Well, I do think 17 is a good goal if circumstances make it feasible. It's a nice press milestone to put before pressing your own bodyweight. A lot of the rest of it looks like a laundry list of common misconceptions though.
I don't really get point 2... doesn't really understand why its a problem. But point 19 looks very important to me!! Should be in the 4th edition of the book (which will never come I guess).
Very excited on the podcast.
I know close grip bench press is commonly thought of as a tricep builder, but the press uses close arms too and has a more closed elbow angle. So I'm surprised the press is not thought of as more of a tricep exercise then close grip bench. Maybe I'm mistaken though, does bench or press use triceps more?
In which of these exercises is the triceps lifting a heavier weight?
Isn't the elbow joint ROM part of the equation? I think I misunderstood, I apologize but the author seems to use "bench" and "close grip bench" interchangeably in the title and in the post. Obviously the press and the CG bench have a similar ROM around the elbow joint.
The question can be rephrased: Do we bench more than we press because there is more muscle contribution beyond the triceps with the bench (pecs and lats), and therefore the triceps are not contributing any more to the heavier lift than they do working in the press, or, are the triceps enabling heavier lifts in the bench because they contribute more because the angle and positioning enables the triceps to contribute more.
No, Rabbi, the question should be rephrased as, why do we bench more than we press? We have already answered that for you, in the book.
We bench more because it's a shorter kinetic chain but what does it have to do with triceps? The triceps work more in the bench than in the press because of the increased weight but what about the ROM? How do you define "work" done by a muscle Rip? It doesn't seem a physics definition since force is not the only variable that defines work.
Except for the fact that the triceps lift more weight over a very slightly shorter ROM (which varies with anthropometry), it doesn't have anything to do with the triceps. I don't care about the triceps. If you care about the triceps, do LTEs.
I don't care about the triceps either, but doing LTEs will work your triceps even less if you consider the definition you gave in this thread.
Yeah, probably. How would you answer the question?
Like the old Rip would, something like "get your press to 300 and your bench to 400 so you can stop worrying about your triceps"
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