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    Default 5x3 or Reset

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    Coach,

    Age: 23
    Weight: 220-225 depending on day
    Macro: 4000/500/100/230 (Cal/C/F/P)
    Sleep: At least 7.5 hours per night
    Rest: at least 7 minutes between sets

    Last two weeks of workouts:

    6/12/2019
    Backsquat 355x5x3
    Bench 285x5x3
    BB Row 265x8x3

    6/14/2019
    Backsquat 445x5x3
    Press 185x5x3
    Deadlift 505x5x1

    6/17/2019
    Backsquat 450x5x3
    Bench 290x5x3
    Deadlift 510x5x1
    Chins 58x5x3

    6/19/2019
    Backsquat 360x5x3
    Press 187.5x5x3
    BB Row 270x8x3

    6/21/2019
    Backsquat 455x5x3
    Bench 292.5x5x3 (5, 5, 4)
    Deadlift 515x5x1


    6/24/2019
    Backsquat 460x5x3
    Press 190x5x3
    Deadlift 520x5x1
    Chins 3xAMRAP (19,14,9)

    6/26/2019
    Backsquat 365x5x3
    Bench 292.5x5x3 (4, 4, 4)
    BB Row 275x8x3

    So, my question surrounds my bench press stall. Should I reset as it says in PPST or move to MED step 2, 5 sets of 3, in the following article by Matt Reynolds:

    Minimum Effective Dose for Maximum Strength, Part 2 | Matt Reynolds

    I'm torn on which direction to go, and I'd like a coach's input on this matter because I honestly dont know which is the better option.

    If the reset is chosen, is 280 enough of a reset working through 280, 285, and 290 before making another run at 292.5? I'm fairly certain I could do 292.5x3x5 during my next workout though and on from there. On a side note, press is feeling excellent. I have bot done a reset yet.

    So, what do you recommend, reset or 5x3?

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    Height: 5' 9"

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    Not a coach at all:

    I'm a fan of the switch to triples for press/bench, per the blue book. I found that after I ran the triples out, I could go back to where I stalled on fives and resume from there with good progress.
    A reset wouldn't appeal to me. You'll be lifting weight that you already know you can lift for 3-4 workouts, which is 2ish weeks on an LP since bench/press are alternating.
    Just adding weight to the bar and reliably progressing on triples seems like a better use of time.

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    Thank you for the response! I went with the 5x3 approach for those exact reasons. I plan on running out 5x3 then returning to 3x5. After that run through, I'll probably switch to 5x3 once more to try to beat what I did last time. Upon the conclusion of that I'll likely reset to 5's again but switch to intermediate programming.

    I think that'll work because it will be evident that 22.5 reps a week will not be enough for the upper body lifts. Running a compressed texas method like the article I'll link at the bottom would effectively increase the reps to ~30 per week. This should be enough stress to keep things moving for a while.

    Intermediate Programming for the Upper Body Lifts | Nick Delgadillo

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    That's a great article. I like this part:
    You’ve gone from adding weight to the bar three times every two weeks on the press during the LP, to adding weight to the bar one time every two weeks on press intensity day.
    I made this exact mistake when I moved on to Intermediate stuff. I still made progress, but it wasn't as fast as it should have been.

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