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    Good afternoon community,

    I would be very interested to hear / thoughts I would like to have about the new format of the Army Combat Fitness Test. In quite a bit of the Starting Strength videos / podcasts, I know Rip has been especially vocal about his opinion on military "fitness" programs (they're terrible, I'm a part time soldier, and I know how bad they are). I would like to see what the opinion of the SS community here is on the subject matter.

    Is anyone here training to do well on it or has taken it?

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    I will be curious to see how I do next year on this utilizing a strength approach. Would love to hear some thoughts on this subject matter from athletes / soldiers.

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    So my concerns with this.....

    Which exercises are administered first - last in the test?
    Will you be allowed to warm-up the deadift? Or are you supposed to show up and deadlift 300lbs cold?
    Who is going to teach the hundreds of thousands of people to properly execute this lift w/o getting hurt?

    I am glad to see the US Army take strength training serious. However, with 6 exercises being tested, I feel like they're to fit 5lbs of shit in a 10lb bag. I think 2-3 strength exercises, and the run, would more than sufficient.

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    It's not a deadlift. It's a trap-bar pull.

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    It's 6 events, overly simplified:
    Hand Release version of pushups
    Overhead medicine ball toss with 10 lb ball
    Trap Bar Dead Lift
    Leg Tuck (A pull-up with a leg tuck)
    A sprint / shuttle / drag event
    2 mile run at the end

    It's better than the previous APFT, actually makes me a bit more excited to take a PT test, but I still completely agree that military needs to adopt SS model. I was a bit older going into Basic Training a few years ago (32) but I was able to outperform most of the kids there except a few of the freak runners because I had a good strength base going in. It'll help for this test, and this is definitely a step in the right direction.

    The 2 mile test is dead last. That'll be fun in a fatigued state, which is by design.

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    As administered to me a few months ago, order was:

    TB Pull
    Ball Throw
    HR Push Ups
    Shuttle-thingy
    Leg Tuck
    2MR

    Re: Pulling 300lbs cold on the TB. The position of the pull is advantageous; I found I didn't need a warmup. But the last FM I read allows a self-paced 10-minute warmup to the pull event. Mind you, the recommended warmup protocol is retarded (To quote, "Soldiers are encouraged to execute several repetitions at ... 25% - 50% of 3 Repetition Maximum"), but that's only recommended. You can do your 10 minutes as you wish.

    Last I heard from the field (locally; I don't have global info) the real failure-producer remains the leg-tuck, because reasons. Nobody's having trouble with the pull (because to pass as an *infantryman,* you only need to do a triple at about 90% of my wife's current Conventional-DL 5RM, for heaven's sake).

    This is definitely 10lbs of stuff in a 5lb sack, agreed.

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    Iím not gonna train specifically for it, other than increasing my conditioning about a month prior to testing really, but gonna let a basis of strength training be the approach and see how everything comes out. Thanks for the analysis of what you observed in the field.

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