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    Can i check this programming change please.
    Have been on NLP, increasing press by 2.5kg (5.5 lbs).
    First fail at 60 kg (132lbs) as follows
    Set 1 : 5 reps, last one a real grind, 5min rest
    Set 2 : 4 reps only, 10min rest
    Set 3 : 5 reps, tried for 6 but couldn't
    Set 4 : 3 reps, 1 to get the 15 total plus 2 for punishment !
    My plan for next sessions is to increase by only 1kg (2.2 lb) jumps.
    Sound ok ?

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    1) There could be technique issues contributing to your issues with the PR.

    2) Assuming you have the first three questions (The First Three Questions | Mark Rippetoe) dialed in and #1 isn't an issue, it sounds like you need to move to advanced novice programming.
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    Thank you Coach, I’ll post a press check vid in due course.

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    You make a full first set. Then:
    5 min rest between set 1 and 2 = fail.
    10 min rest between set 2 and 3 = 5 reps again.
    Sounds like 5 min rest are just not enough.

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    Yeah damn Rip and his first 3 questions, he’s always right ;-)
    The grind on the last rep first set, should have been by cue to rest longer..

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    Maybe your jumps are too aggressive? 2.5kg is a big jump for continuous gains on the press. Maybe drop back about 10%, acquire a set of micro plates and move back up at 0.5kg or 1kg jumps?

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    Height/Weight?

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    5’8, 230lbs, 53 yrs...I’d like to get to body weight press..seems a long way away !! last session was 143lbs, 4,5,4,2. 10 m rests.

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    What did you lift prior to 143? Did you make the appropriate micro-increase?

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    Hi Robert, here is the progression last couple weeks, assume ~10 min rests between sets.
    I moved to 1 kg jumps, I’ve converted to ~lbs below.
    127 - 5/5/5
    132 - 5/4/5/3
    135 - 5/5/4/1
    137 - 4/4/4/3
    139 - 4/5/4/2
    141 - 4/4/4/3
    143 - 4/5/4/2
    145 - 4/4/4/3
    I recall in a Nick D video, you should still progress weight even if you’re not exactly hitting 3x5, seems to be working ?. I’ve also increased frequency, one day rest, so pressing 3.5 times per week. Should I just keep going, I haven’t really stalled ?

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