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    I stand corrected then. I did not account for previous revisions or the T-Nation article.

    I agree that as long as the principles are adhered to, progress will be made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCG View Post
    Chins or some sort of biceps/back work isn't really optional as you get stronger though. Ignoring the biceps is a good way to get elbow tendinitis.
    Can you please elaborate on this? How does this lead to tendinitis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by elVarouza View Post
    Can you please elaborate on this? How does this lead to tendinitis?
    Squats + strong triceps + weak biceps = ow fuck my elbows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCG View Post
    Squats + strong triceps + weak biceps = ow fuck my elbows.
    Sounds familiar to what's been happening to me recently. Has training biceps actually alleviated this for you (and others)? I've never really touched mine. Bench 1RM ~260lbs, curl 1RM probably 90lbs, ha.

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    There is a reason Rip tells pretty much everyone who asks about elbow tendinitis to start chinning. Yes it works. It will make your elbows worse for a bit though, then they will start to get better.

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    If I may, these are the programs I found:

    The Original Starting Strength Novice Program

    Workout A
    3x5 Squat
    3x5 Bench Press
    1x5 Deadlift

    Workout B
    3x5 Squat
    3x5 Press
    5x3 Power cleans

    Workouts A and B alternate on 3 non-consecutive days per week.

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    Onus Wunsler Beginner Program (from SS):

    Workout A
    3x5 Squat
    3x5 Press
    1x5 Deadlift / 5x3 Power Cleans (Alternating)

    Workout B
    3x5 Squat
    3x5 Bench Press
    3x10 or 5x10 Back Extensions (unweighted if progressing to GHR, weighted if not)
    Chin-Ups: 3 sets to failure or add weight if completing more than 15 reps

    Workouts A and B alternate on 3 non-consecutive days per week.

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    Practical Programming Novice Program

    Monday
    3x5 Squat
    3x5 Bench press / Press (Alternating)
    Chin-ups: 3 sets to failure or add weight if completing more than 15 reps

    Wednesday
    3x5 Squat
    3x5 Press / Bench Press (Alternating)
    1x5 Deadlift

    Friday
    3x5 Squat
    3x5 Bench Press / Press (Alternating)
    Pull-ups: 3 sets to failure or add weight if completing more than 15 reps

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    Wichita Falls Novice Program

    Monday
    Squat 3x5
    Bench press/press 3x5 (alternating)
    Chin-ups: 3 sets to failure or add weight if completing more than 15 reps

    Wednesday
    Squat 3x5
    Press/bench press 3x5 (alternating)
    Deadlift 1x5/Powerclean 5x3 (alternating)

    Friday
    Squat 3x5
    Bench press/press 3x5 (alternating)
    Pull-ups: 3 sets to failure or add weight if completing more than 15 reps

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    Then there is the Advanced Novice program with either front squats or light back squats.

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    Good question, I've wondered about the same myself. I want to start adding chins/pull-ups , but do I add them as a 4th lift or replace one? But as I can think for myself I will decide on one option and go with that. Sometimes half the fun is pondering a "problem". But as chins/pull-ups and dips is assistance work I'd probably go with adding it rather than replacing something.
    Last edited by Valhall; 08-10-2011 at 04:31 AM.

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    As you pointed out, either will work. As I wrote in my post, I'd let it depend on how "advanced" you are. If you are still deadlifting less than 225 and benching less than 165, you could probably get away with tacking it at the end of workouts. As your main lifts start to become very difficult, it might be better to treat it as a seperate lift.

    But it's really minutiae.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danish Viking View Post
    Well, if you read SSBBT1, SSBBT2, PPST1, PPST2, then you come out with a few different versions.
    Sorry guys but where are these different versions? Are they in the book? I admit I have only really skimmed the book but I didnt see all these different versions?

    Paddy

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    starting strength coach development program
    There is only one version in the book although the example of the workout log shows a different program. Personally, I'm going to stick with the basic program. I am good at pull ups and enjoy them but I'm really enjoying power cleans and deadlift at the moment.

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