Analyzing the Squat

[Mainstream]

of this discussion like a Bolshevik lobbing molotov cocktails or are you gonna join the discussion head on...certainly, you have thought plenty about THIS topic...

Incidentally, I now notice more and more people using ellipses in their posts....I think they capture the unending development of thought and the evolution of consciousness better than the hard.Cold. Period. It softens rhetoric and opens dialogue better.

[Clay Simczyk]

I'm pretty sure learning to squat through trail and error will result in more errors than starting with the standardized model.

[Nick D'Agostino]

Listen..a chimpanzee..a dog ..a badger...hell even a mole has a femur , a tibia, a hip socket and any other skeletal bone that a human does...the basic mammallian skeletal structure...are you telling me that therefore they will squat the same way as kareem abdul jabbar....thats absurd....different anthropometries create different FUNCTIONAL movement patterns...the range will be smaller in the same specie of course but the differences will still be, well, different...one size does not fit all...every different bone size will mean a whole different size and strength for all the muscles attaching to that bone....yes, there are similiarities between humans ...most of us are capable of doing some type of squat...or press or whatever...but the EXACT form of that exercise will be diffrent for each person as it should be....

So how do you define what the proper form for the chosen exercise is? If there is no encompassing applicable model, or point of reference, that can be used, how do you define "EXACT?"
Enlighten us. You agree that human's are relative to each other, so why can a general model not be made?

My recommendation is to read the book before commenting further.

[Mark Rippetoe]

of this discussion like a Bolshevik lobbing molotov cocktails or are you gonna join the discussion head on...certainly, you have thought plenty about THIS topic...

Incidentally, I now notice more and more people using ellipses in their posts....I think they capture the unending development of thought and the evolution of consciousness better than the hard.Cold. Period. It softens rhetoric and opens dialogue better.

Fuck.

[Mainstream]

Like throwing a baseball, hitting a baseball doing a full pike, or bowling or a golf swing....certain coaching techniques and principles would apply...they would even suggest how to hold your body or apply various physical components, but they would not suggest exactly where to place your feet or hands etc....oh, shit, yes, they would, wait...scratch that....fuck...its getting late....

[Brodie Butland]

Like throwing a baseball, hitting a baseball doing a full pike, or bowling or a golf swing....certain coaching techniques and principles would apply...they would even suggest how to hold your body or apply various physical components, but they would not suggest exactly where to place your feet or hands etc....oh, shit, yes, they would, wait...scratch that....fuck...its getting late....

Something tells me that you have never worked with a pitching coach, a hitting coach, a bowling coach, or a golf coach.

I also know for a fact that you haven't attended a SS seminar. Why? Because at a seminar, we aren't told to place our feet on both X's, bend the back to exactly Y degrees, shove knees forward to exactly Z point, and put your grip at specific areas on the bar. Rather, we're taught principles based upon a model, and our individual anthropometries ultimately dictate what that model looks like when applied to us.

You see, a model doesn't mean that everything is expressly and narrowly defined--it means a collection of principles. Taking your own example, if you watch golfers swing in slow motion, the swings will look remarkably similar...obviously everyone's swing looks a little different, but they follow pretty closely to an idealized model. Why? Because that particular type of swing has proven over time to be the most effective way to hit a golf ball. If that weren't the case, professional golfers wouldn't have coaches.