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    What fraction of serious training young men weighing near 200 pounds meet the typically mentioned standards of a 200 Press, 300 Bench Press, 400 Squat and 500 Deadlift?
    In my gym maybe only a quarter would reach the standards on these lifts just by casual analysis.

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    I do not know what the ratio is, but I travel quite a bit, and I have noticed over the last few years that more gyms are installing squat racks with Olympic/deadlifting pads and that more people are starting to focus on strength over aesthetics. Still not the lions share by any means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squat1 View Post
    What fraction of serious training young men weighing near 200 pounds meet the typically mentioned standards of a 200 Press, 300 Bench Press, 400 Squat and 500 Deadlift?
    In my gym maybe only a quarter would reach the standards on these lifts just by casual analysis.
    I'd suggest that this is highly dependent on your definition of "serious training."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Skillin View Post
    I'd suggest that this is highly dependent on your definition of "serious training."
    No kidding. I'd wager that the number of NON-serious training men pressing their bodyweight is pretty close to zero.

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    As a side note would a guy that does a typical bro split (1x body part per week training) be considered serious even if he lifts reasonably hard?

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    What is "hard"?

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    Hard is subjective and differs according to level of training experience and how an individual is feeling (feeling is subjective).
    I can't get away with the words I use here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    What is "hard"?
    More to the point, how does one lift "hard"? Does that just mean heavy? or like it's subjectively difficult?

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    We have developed objective criteria to address this issue. I think the novice/intermediate/advanced spectrum works well, if it is applied correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squat1 View Post
    What fraction of serious training young men weighing near 200 pounds meet the typically mentioned standards of a 200 Press, 300 Bench Press, 400 Squat and 500 Deadlift?
    In my gym maybe only a quarter would reach the standards on these lifts just by casual analysis.
    What is your question? Will a young man who trains seriously toward the goal of performing these lifts and has a bodyweight around 200 lbs while neither excessively fat nor uncommonly tall reach these numbers? Will a young man who trains seriously for sprinting and weighs 200 lbs reach these numbers? Will a young man who starts out at 250 lbs and trains seriously for a 5k race while cutting weight to 200 lbs reach these numbers? Will a young man weighing 200 lbs in serious training for bodybuilding meet these numbers? Will a young man with a background in "bro" lifting who then decides to train seriously for the big lifts meet these numbers? To the first and last case, near 100% with appropriate programming. To the rest, unlikely.

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