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    Default Soreness, Training, and Practice | Mark Rippetoe

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    If your training is “affecting your game” adversely – you are unable to effectively practice because of the soreness being produced by random hard things or “functional training” that features new and exciting exercises so frequently that you cannot adapt, while involving weights so light they cannot make you stronger – your training is not being managed productively.

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    Well this brings up 'fun' memories of my gym-bro days.
    Debilitating DOMS after "leg day" and "chest/shoulders/tri day," and "Back/Bi day." The classic MWF bro-split. Perpetual muscle soreness and being proud of the fact that putting on a coat was difficult. It was stupid, I was weak, and making minimal progress.
    I guess I shared the ideas about soreness that everyone else had: If you were sore, that means that you're working hard. I still see it a lot in the gym and with friends.

    Soreness does not make you stronger – it just makes you hurt. As I've said, it is possible to train productively for months without experiencing a tenth of the soreness produced by The Filthy Fifty, and at the same time getting much stronger.

    I picked up Starting Strength in July 2017 and haven't experienced DOMS once since then. I don't measure progress by soreness anymore, because that's silly. Progress is more weight on the bar; soreness really has nothing to do with it.

    For fun, here's a leg day that I remember:
    Squat 3x8, Weighted lunges up and down the gym x3, Leg Press 3x8, Calf machine 3x8, Ham curl 3x8, Quad machine thing 3x8, Kettlebell thrusts 3x8
    Funny that sets of 8 are considered the perfect mix of strength and hypertrophy, because I didn't gain either of those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaimi Kuenzli View Post
    Well this brings up 'fun' memories of my gym-bro days.
    Debilitating DOMS after "leg day" and "chest/shoulders/tri day," and "Back/Bi day." The classic MWF bro-split. Perpetual muscle soreness and being proud of the fact that putting on a coat was difficult. It was stupid, I was weak, and making minimal progress.
    I guess I shared the ideas about soreness that everyone else had: If you were sore, that means that you're working hard. I still see it a lot in the gym and with friends.

    Soreness does not make you stronger – it just makes you hurt. As I've said, it is possible to train productively for months without experiencing a tenth of the soreness produced by The Filthy Fifty, and at the same time getting much stronger.

    I picked up Starting Strength in July 2017 and haven't experienced DOMS once since then. I don't measure progress by soreness anymore, because that's silly. Progress is more weight on the bar; soreness really has nothing to do with it.

    For fun, here's a leg day that I remember:
    Squat 3x8, Weighted lunges up and down the gym x3, Leg Press 3x8, Calf machine 3x8, Ham curl 3x8, Quad machine thing 3x8, Kettlebell thrusts 3x8
    Funny that sets of 8 are considered the perfect mix of strength and hypertrophy, because I didn't gain either of those.
    I came from that same kind of "training" and mindset as well. I remember how pleased I was to have leg DOMs 4 days post workout because I thought I must be progressing if I'm crippling sore. I was weak as shit and didn't know it. Had abs though!

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    'Soreness does not make you stronger – it just makes you hurt.'

    I LOVE this statement So simple, yet so true.

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    But if I’m not sore, how will anyone else know how badly I crushed it at the gym? I need people to know how tough I am!!!!

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