starting strength gym
Page 1 of 6 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 51

Thread: Artificially Weak Deadlifts, Part 1: Perception vs Reality | Robert Santana

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    3,111

    Default Artificially Weak Deadlifts, Part 1: Perception vs Reality | Robert Santana

    • starting strength seminar april 2024
    • starting strength seminar jume 2024
    • starting strength seminar august 2024
    "The importance of the deadlift cannot be overstated. The deadlift is the most functional barbell exercise we perform because no activity is more common than bending over and picking things up...Most of us have received the memo, but some missed it."

    Read article

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    Spain
    Posts
    39

    Default

    The net result is typically a deadlift that is ~50-100 lb ahead of squat 5RM at the end of the novice progression.
    Hey! My DL is ~85 lbs heavier than my squat and I'm not anywhere near the end of NLP! (I think). Good to know that I'm on track!

  3. #3
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    217

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by stef View Post
    "The importance of the deadlift cannot be overstated. The deadlift is the most functional barbell exercise we perform because no activity is more common than bending over and picking things up...Most of us have received the memo, but some missed it."

    Read article
    Great article. Well stated.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jun 2019
    Posts
    17

    Default

    This article is me in a nutshell! My squat is 300 and my deadlift is 320! Helpppp 😂

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Apr 2018
    Posts
    318

    Default

    First time I ran LP, my deadlift got ahead of my squat. Deadlift stalled, which made things worse. Squat stalled pretty much immediately after that. I’m not sure if this is universal yet, but at least in my case, I definitely feel things move a lot better when the deadlift is at least somewhat ahead of the squat. My understanding is that this can’t be sustained for most people once the deadlift gets over 700 pounds, but this is not a problem I ever expect to have.

    I have yet to feel quite the time dilation that I’ve seen described here and elsewhere, but I’m sure it’s coming.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Dec 2017
    Posts
    12

    Default

    I think it’s interesting that Santa said that the deadlift creates the most aesthetic gain. Though I agree with him, can anyone tell us why and what changes you saw in yourself? I think for me I the most change took place in my upper body. My traps got bigger as well as my back which makes anyone look more muscular.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Wichita Falls, Texas
    Posts
    2,414

    Default

    RichardUnderwood, this is actually a really good question. As far as the why, we may be able to tailor the discussion better if we can create some general agreement as to what makes an aesthetic physique. What would be some of the characteristics of an aesthetic physique per your understanding?

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Dec 2017
    Posts
    12

    Default

    I don’t think I’ll be much help in discussing how someone may look more aesthetic, in that opinions will differ between individuals on what looks best. In short, I think heavy deadlifts simply make you look like you lift heavy things or more powerful. For example, as far as natural athletes go, look at elite Olympic weight lifters or elite powerlifters who train for performance and compare them to your average gym bra looking for aesthetic gain. The gym bra sometimes does achieve the aesthetic goal, full muscles, especially the beach ones, (arms, shoulders, chest, lats). This may look great but may also not look strong which I’ll explain. Now your Olympic and power lifter will look totally different. Barring that they have a body fat percentage that allows you to see the physique they posses, and not necessarily as lean as the gym bra, things are distributed differently. There’s just a certain thickness that is developed only with heavy pulls from the floor. People who train this way, like us, can see this because we train this way ourselves. We can see the strength and power in other lifters and I think we can appreciate that more. What I’m trying to get at here is you end up looking like the mother fucker you don’t want to mess with versus the guy that just wants to get laid.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jan 2018
    Posts
    729

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by RichardUnderwood View Post
    ....
    I don't know about a lot of what you said. Maybe for powerlifters its true, sure.
    Many Olympic weightlifters look like DYEL insurance salesman.
    Ilya doesn't really look like someone I'm afraid of. Madori pretty much has a dad bod.
    Much of this talk is genetics.
    I never max/maxed, but I got my deadlift from 285x5x1 to 405x5x5 and my traps haven't grown at all.


    And its "bro" by the way. Short for brother.
    "brah" is (the correct way) phonetic spelling for "bro".
    Normally, used when talking to another gym bro, with a California surfer type dialect.
    As in: "brah, r u hittin chest 2day or wut mate?"

    THIS is a "gym bra":
    [img] https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....hL._UX679_.jpg [/img]

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Dec 2017
    Posts
    12

    Default

    starting strength coach development program
    Like I said, aesthetics would be opinions based. Of course genetics or going to play a factor and we still haven’t discussed why Santana made the deadlift/aesthetic connection. So thanks for your valuable input. Can you contribute rather than looking to argue with someone?

Page 1 of 6 123 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •