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    I've got a friend who is a diehard believer in chiropractors, going several times a week. I'm very skeptical of their effectiveness, and I'd really like to know what types of problems an adjustment is actually capable of fixing and what is actually just homeopathic BS. Any advice or resources?

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    I think the questions you're asking are a little too broad to have any actual answer. I'm sure that when it comes to chiropractors, like any other doctor or profession for that matter, there are crappy ones and there are good ones.

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    Either
    A) they're doing chiropractic "medicine" which is wholesale bullshit and has long since been debunked.
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    B) they're doing physical therapy and calling it chiropractic medicine.

    Adjustments are supposed to be the solution to vertebral subluxations. The founder of chiropractic "medicine", Daniel Palmer, hypothesized that subluxations are the cause of all human disease and illness. Modern chiropractors (in my experience) claim that subluxations cause nerve pinching, reduction in force output, and potentially soft tissue damage. By adjusting them, these problems and their associated symptoms (pain, immobility) can be solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Roberts View Post
    I'm very skeptical of their effectiveness, ...
    Ben,
    If you really want an answer then you will have to experience it for yourself. When you have a back ache that you can't seem to get to go away, give one a try. You will need to make your own decision.

    The observable facts are that all insurance company's cover their services as valid treatments. Every state of which I'm aware covers chiropractic care for workers comp patients for which it it indicated. A vast number of professional athletes use one. Every NFL team has a team chiropractors. Arnold Schwarzenegger has said they are instrumental to competitive body building.

    A couple of practical comments, there is no such thing as "Chiropractic Medicine." Medicine is loosely defined as a form of healthcare using compounds or preparations for the treatment or prevention of diseases. As AndrewLewis said, chiropractic is the remove of vertebral subluxations which is a mechanical process.

    Ultimately it is your spine, your joints, and how you feel. If you have a problem, then try one out. If you are fine, then take your money and find another use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oso Rojo View Post
    The observable facts are that all insurance companies cover their services as valid treatments. Every state of which I'm aware covers chiropractic care for workers comp patients for which it it indicated. A vast number of professional athletes use one. Every NFL team has a team chiropractors. Arnold Schwarzenegger has said they are instrumental to competitive body building.
    I just want to highlight this statement here: not counting the position the various health insurance providers have taken, are these actually endorsements on the efficacy of the practice? I'm not anti-chiropracty per se; in fact, I'm probably not. This is not a great argument, however, given how much silly nonsense professional sports throws the vast quantities of money it has at its disposal at and the whole insanity that is professional bodybuilding.

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    For the vast majority of cases, spinal adjustment is unnecessary bullshit. Don't fuck with your spine because you have "back pain" or "neck pain." If you have a neurological problem associated with your spine, you need to see a neurologist who can precisely and accurately diagnose the problem before you start paying some fool to crack your neck. If your muscles are weak, you need to get stronger. If you have a tendon avulsion, you need it fixed by a surgeon.
    Consider the mechanism of treatment - if you split your skin open and stitch it so it can heal back together, that makes sense mechanistically. What claims are your friend making that indicates the mechanism of treatment makes sense?

    Just because some doctors and NFL players like it doesn't mean it's valid. If you really want to make that argument, I can easily counter with "well the major associations of science and medicine have publicly disparaged chiropractic 'medicine'". The fact that insurance companies cover it tells us one thing and one thing only: it gets them paid. The quality control on chiropractors is bad, similar to strength training. You might get someone who is very conservative and acts more like a physical therapist/massage therapist. You might get someone who is going to manipulate your spine 5 minutes in and make matters worse.

    At the end of the day, it's your body and your choice, but before you start running trial-and-error on one of the most important structures in your body, I recommend you do research. You clearly are, because you're explicitly asking for advice, which is great.

    If you want to learn about the complications associated with spinal adjustment, Google, a lot of reading, and the ability to parse out bullshit are going to be your friends. Here are two studies I found Googling "Complications associated with spinal adjustment." Here's one and the other.

    I'd be happy to hear counterarguments from chiropractors or proponents of chiropractic manipulation. I'd love to be wrong, but I haven't found any compelling reason to see that I am in this matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satch12879 View Post
    ... are these actually endorsements on the efficacy of the practice?
    No, these are persons expressing they opinion on the subject and I'm encouraging the OP to make their own decision rather than relying on the option of others.

    Somewhere in my past I was told to live my life in spite of the better opinions of others. I encourage others to do the same. Take in the council of others, test their truths for validity and then make your own choices.

    The reason I'm around here, I read Rip's books. I tried out his methods and they worked for me. This doesn't make it the only truth, it makes it a truth that works for me.

    One thing I've found in life is that anything that's hotly contested likely contains a hidden reality that is not being spoken.

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    I've tried not going for a lomg period of time....im always better as soon as i go

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    Are you talking about peeing, or getting your back adjusted?

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    Don’t let the fuckers crack your neck. Look up “chiropractor and strokes”

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