Originally Posted by
Goldenstein Shekkelblat
What confused me was the talk about internal rotation of the shoulder, but I think I know what he was talking about now. If I assume a very wide grip on the overhead press and my elbows are at 90 degrees while pressing, my shoulders feel like shit. Even assuming that position with no weight feels weird in my shoulder, but I have a history of dislocations there.
I think I understand what happened to these so-called "experts": they reached the end of novice progression on the press, and they have no idea how to program the advanced novice or intermediate press. They got stuck indefinitely, and said, "Shit, this is hard, and I'm an expert!" and came up with rationalizations for why they couldn't progress, and extrapolated that if I, Men's Health fitness director, can't do this, then no one else even has a chance, so let's all do these bodybuilding shoulder exercises instead. I myself was surprised by how suddenly and abruptly the +5 pounds every workout ended on the press.