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[John Winthrop]

Important:

• Lutz to 322, thru types
• Doepke thru commodities and credit

Unimportant:

• Put herring in tummy, dilute with espresso and milk
• Random Walk
• Les Journals

[John Winthrop]

• Big Varian prelim
• Doepke thru market clearing
• HTML

[Murelli]

What program are you following?

[Murelli]

The Press 3.0 video created a response that spiraled magnificently out of control, though totally predictably if one had been reading the limbo-pressing thread that was a long, consistent counter-cultural insurgence against "excessive" layback in the press. This dissension caused spillover of EnP/Q&A/Training type posts to go everywhere, and new forum rules were put in place in response. Hopefully this post won't be deleted before you read it, cause for posts they have doubt about whether constitute criticism against the new rules, they err on the side of delete.

Several SSCs joined in the discussion on that thread, that started as a reaction to Carl Raghavan's instagram post of a double layback press, and the discussion went on and on for almost a year. Suddenly, a video o Carl pressing 225x5 with a double layback is released on SS's official youtube account without any explanation, and the video recieves a giant backlash in YT, with several comments and down votings from people who never even heard of the thread in the Training Forum. The video is posted in the Training Forum thread and then in the Q&A and people start asking for answers, to which only hand-wavy arguments are presented, absolutely contrary to the former SS tennets of rational, logical physical analysis of the lifts, and inline with the formerly bashed appeals to authority, to "how we like it" and to "this is the one true way of lifting heavy". Anyone can go to the Q&A thread and see for themselves, at least the posts which were not deleted, but not to the Training forum thread since it was deleted.

Then came the new rules, then the assumed abuse of those rules, then people started getting banned, then people started purposedly getting banned, and then the new rules were revised and we're here now missing a lot of great contributors to this community.

Anyway, this post will probably get deleted along with perman's. It's okay, I'm a firm believer that the owner of an establishment should be the one to write the rules and enforce them, since said owner is the one who bears the good or bad consequences of managing the establishment.

[Murelli]

Diagnosing Silly Bullshit | Austin Baraki

[Mark E. Hurling]

Has this become the Catacombs for secret meetings?

[Murelli]

Let's tell the whole story:

First there was The Rippening, when, by flushing all threads that were inactive by more than 48h, a lot of sensible knowledge about physics, and several worthy contributions by some great thinking members just vanished. That was already disappointment enough for some people and they just stopped caring about this community then. What also happened is that the shortened life span of the threads gave the unentertaining trolls a green light for intense shitposting, and E&P became the cesspool that Rip always told it was.

Then, on a few occasions, SSCs started saying or doing stupid things on social media or this forum: Robert Santana said Asics 727 were magical and the best lifting shoes that could instantly add pounds to his trainees lifts, which was severely refuted by several forum members showing where he was wrong. Reynolds claimed the Chinese weightlifting team were genetically engineered and reposted it on SSOC's Instagram, but at least he admitted on the forum that it was a mistake. These things prompted KoTJ to ask Rip if there was no problem with this, since SSCs were publicly going against SS tenets of logical analysis and rational thinking. That thread in the Q&A got sideways pretty quick with several people bashing KoTJ with no reason.

Then there came Carl Raghavan pressing with a spine bending double layback and KoTJ created a thread on the Training Forum to discuss double layback. All the greatest contributors of this community chimed in and several SSCs (thanks Herbie) discussed its pros and cons for around a year. The central point was that it didn't do any favours for a brand that caters mostly to novices.

And the the YT video, the handwavy and bullshit arguments by Rip and stef, claiming that Carl was not hyperextending his spine. There they became just like any other fitness world gurus: "this is the way we like it", "All people who lift heavy do it like this". It was a shock coming from people who claim to be the only ones in the industry who approach lifting with logic and reason.

Then a lot of people entered the discussion about that, about the row video, and what happens? People start getting doxxed and banned just for being dissenters. Well, they just took a gigantic shit on the head of the biggest brand and community contributors for disagreeing. That came from people who said they were libertarians.

Also, Rip has being unnecessarily an asshole to a lot of people for a lot of time, asking for a guy to show his wife's boobs, calling people retarded for asking questions to him, and calling people vicious little cunts just because they didn't bought his arguments and denounced his aggressive behaviour. Then came the new rules and people getting banned without violating the rules.

I'm done with this shit. This community has been sent to the sewer by it's own creator and I don't want to have anything to do with it anymore. So fuck this dictator-like behaviour and fuck all his fake "rational logical libertarian" cover. He's just another guru trying to make it in a competitive fitness industry, and sold out his main contributors (KoTJ, gilchrest, etc) because they were doing financial damage to the brand. You can keep your forum tidy now, you fat Stalin.

[Murelli]

You too can join the Exodus.

[Culican]

The last person has to remember to turn out the lights.

[Satch12879]

Wah.