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    So I'm keeping at it. Feel a bit silly posting after reading tough-as-nails Rich Halford's post and seeing all the hardware in his hip. That's an inspiration for you.

    Be that as it may, last Thursday I squatted 285x10x3, ran out of time so did 415x5 deadlifts on Friday. Back was a bit fried after that so I think I'm going to cut back on deadlift frequency. Today I did 295x10x3, just about the hardest set of squats I've ever done. Not so much the weight, but those 9th and 10th reps are just brutal on the heart and lungs. Even if I had planned on doing deadlifts after that, no way I could have done a heavy set, so I'll put them off until Wednesday (along with presses, which I also didn't have the energy to do today).

    Santana, of course, says I should keep going up to at least 315 before cutting back on sets and/or reps. We'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Plano View Post
    Today I did 295x10x3, just about the hardest set of squats I've ever done. Not so much the weight, but those 9th and 10th reps are just brutal on the heart and lungs. Even if I had planned on doing deadlifts after that, no way I could have done a heavy set, so I'll put them off until Wednesday (along with presses, which I also didn't have the energy to do today).

    Santana, of course, says I should keep going up to at least 315 before cutting back on sets and/or reps. We'll see.
    Damn, that is cruel and unusual punishment...if you're back isn't getting pumped after all that abuse, I think you've solved your problem!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Plano View Post
    Santana, of course, says I should keep going up to at least 315 before cutting back on sets and/or reps. We'll see.
    I told you to move to two sets last time you came in? I definitely do not want 3 sets @ 315. 1 set will be sufficient for your purposes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Santana View Post
    I told you to move to two sets last time you came in? I definitely do not want 3 sets @ 315. 1 set will be sufficient for your purposes.
    Clearly a misunderstanding on my part and I'm happy to leave those 10s behind after they have served their purpose!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ML67 View Post
    Damn, that is cruel and unusual punishment...if you're back isn't getting pumped after all that abuse, I think you've solved your problem!
    Things are still not perfect, but definitely better. Not doing squats and deadlifts on the same day helps as well. I pulled 425x5 pretty easily the next day. As Coach Santana notes below, we're moving on to a different sets/reps scheme now.

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    So to basically bring this thread to a close, yesterday, Sunday, I did 305x10x1 squats, pretty much just to be able to say I did a set of ten at over 300 lbs. Today at Santana's gym I pulled 445x5, which was heavy but not a problem and my back did not complain. Discussed training structure going forward and Robert said to bring squat and deadlift frequency down to once a week, using sets of five (and fill in with bench, press, and upper body accessories). I'm trying to wrap my head around the idea that that will actually work, because it seems like such low volume, but I'm going to trust his judgement and experience (and reread the gray book and BB Rx). At the very least I won't be dreading workouts as much! We'll do this for a couple four weeks and then start specific training for the meet which will be held at the beginning of March.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Plano View Post
    Things are still not perfect, but definitely better. Not doing squats and deadlifts on the same day helps as well. I pulled 425x5 pretty easily the next day. As Coach Santana notes below, we're moving on to a different sets/reps scheme now.
    Hopefully it continues to improve. Impressive numbers...what is your programming like now? I believe you were previously running a HLM?

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