SS and Weighted pull/chin ups

[Smith K]

One of my goals in my lifting lifetime is to do a pull-up/chin-up with 225Lbs attached to me @ around 215-225lbs bodyweight.

It's definately going to be a longtime achieving that goal, and I would like to start working towards it while doing Starting strength.

Would plugging in 3x5 weighted chins after powercleans be a viable option? 3x5 seems to work really well for everything else in the begginning.

Or would following the PP novice program chinning monday/friday and deadlifting on 1 wednesday and power cleaning on the other be a better idea?

[Mark Rippetoe]

How many times are you chinning your bodyweight now?

[Smith K]

How many times are you chinning your bodyweight now?

Somewhere between 13-15 ish.

[Mark Rippetoe]

Then you can start using weighted chins as half of your work. I've never used weighted chins as my whole training load, always used some unweighted chins at high reps along with the weighted stuff, so I can't really advise you to use weighted sets as all your training from personal experience. And 225 would be a helluva chinup. This will take some time, of course. Let us know what happens.

[Antigen]

One of my goals in my lifting lifetime is to do a pull-up/chin-up with 225Lbs attached to me @ around 215-225lbs bodyweight.

The unfortunate thing about this sort of goal is you would probably get it faster by never squatting. Another consideration is people who train this stuff usually get a one arm chin well before a plus bodyweight weighted chin. It is a sick goal though.

[LudwigVan]

Forgive me if this has been addressed before, but I've been wondering why chinups are treated differently from the other lifts with regard to the rep scheme and weight progression. Why is it better to do them unweighted with high reps rather than steadily increasing the weight as with the other movements?

[Smith K]

Then you can start using weighted chins as half of your work. I've never used weighted chins as my whole training load, always used some unweighted chins at high reps along with the weighted stuff, so I can't really advise you to use weighted sets as all your training from personal experience. And 225 would be a helluva chinup. This will take some time, of course. Let us know what happens.

Would you advise I just add them in after SS or should I do the PP program (alternating deads and pc's on wednesday and chinning monday/friday)

3x5 chins on monday and 3 x Xchins on friday?

[Mark Rippetoe]

Chinups/pullups are traditionally done as bodyweight exercises, and most people can't do enough of them that anything else is necessary. Once you can do 10-12, they can be treated like presses and increased incrementally like a barbell exercise if you want to pretend they are a primary movement, but they're not. They are a damn good assistance exercise, one of the most important, but they are not like squats, presses, or pulls.