Regarding Sullidogs lecture

[quagmire]

The thread is closed so I cannot post, but I think this might be relevant:
http://www.escardio.org/about/press/...mortality.aspx

Original thread:
http://startingstrength.com/resource...ad.php?t=35372

[Mark Rippetoe]

The correlation of strength with longevity is not entirely surprising.

[Mutant]

So what? Generally sick people are weaker than healthy ones and I bet almost none of those people trained with barbells. I don't see how it's relevant to whether or not the ACQUISITION of strength promotes LONGEVITY. Furthermore, we need to know if there is some threshold. Training with max weights everyday is obviously not good for your health, so there is definitely some cut off point. I wonder if elite athletes have increased or decreased mortality rates.

[Mark Rippetoe]

Yes, it's a standard correlative study.

[Mac Ward]

Training with max weights everyday is obviously not good for your health

Why not? Unless you mean literally training every day at a max. That would obviously eventually result in over training, but training with maximum with maximum weights is not "obviously not good for your health" - to me.

[DirtyRed]

So what? Generally sick people are weaker than healthy ones and I bet almost none of those people trained with barbells. I don't see how it's relevant to whether or not the ACQUISITION of strength promotes LONGEVITY. Furthermore, we need to know if there is some threshold. Training with max weights everyday is obviously not good for your health, so there is definitely some cut off point. I wonder if elite athletes have increased or decreased mortality rates.

It's not good for your strength either.

Clearly, stronger people are harder to kill.

[Justin Jordan]

I wonder if elite athletes have increased or decreased mortality rates.

In every sport I've ever seen studied, the average lifespan goes down for top level athletes. Which isn't quite the same thing as increased mortality rates, but it does tend to support the not at all surprising fact that being an elite athlete is bad for your actual health.

But it's reverse J slope, usually - risk of dying decreases with exercise to a point, and then starts increasing again.

[quagmire]

I wonder if elite athletes have increased or decreased mortality rates.

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12/21/he...ger/index.html

[Xultrarunner]

I believe Practical Programming has a section that discusses watching how your body responds to the stress of exercise and adjusting to that. A lot of these issues would be moot with some common sense.

[z3nrunn3r]

to the op
I would just stay well clear of any heavy lifting. It is better to be SAFE than strong.

Rip this looks like a dead thread to me.