[QUOTE=Mark Rippetoe;967856
haha lol. Obviously.[/QUOTE]
HA!
Andy Bolton is speaking about doing more 'cardio' this morning. Maybe he's having a midlife crisis?
[QUOTE=Mark Rippetoe;967856
haha lol. Obviously.[/QUOTE]
HA!
Andy Bolton is speaking about doing more 'cardio' this morning. Maybe he's having a midlife crisis?
We're being trolled on multiple fronts.
Broken Arrow.
I don't talk to PTs. My own shoulders and my own reasoning suggest that KB/DB presses are to the BB press roughly what BB press is to pressing in Smith. And then (correctly performed) KB press feels better than DB press. So from shoulder/elbow friendliness POV I put them in the following order: KB, DB, BB, Smith.
The above advantage may have little relevance when you do 3 sets of 5, where the advantage of greater loads one uses with BBs wins, but it makes a lot of sense when much higher rep counts are involved, read: conditioning, and it was conditioning the OP asked about.
Never understand why people quote examples from the strongest freaks in the world and try to apply it to average desk jockey struggling to reach a 300lb deadlift.
I used some yesterday for warmups. Swinging them on the sidewalk trying not to hit passing pedestrians. Then deadlifting the bigger ones as a warmup. They seem a little easier to warm up with for when the warm-up weight for a deadlift is less than 135. While on the sidewalk a little girl maybe 5 or 6 came by to try picking them all up. She deadlifted them naturally with perfect form, all of them, even the biggest one. She proudly declared that she practices with milk jugs.
"ballistically" is what happens when you screw up a swing.
In classic KB sport, yes, in 10 minutes. There are all kinds of competitions both with BBs and KBs though.
E.g., pressing the 80kg KB for reps in 1 minute. You can check Koklyaev trying it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhAZIPl-k6I
I don't think anybody here really argues that BBs are the most versatile tool for strength training, but saying that training with KBs is not strength training... well, an overkill. For example, one of the most well-known KBs pressing programs (that does work) is based exclusively on sets of 1 to 5 reps.
OTOH, there are, for example, BB competitions in russian press. One discipline is counting reps in 5 minutes (the heaviest "category" to compete is 150kg loaded on BB, no self-weight divisions). Another discipline is 3 attempts by 13 presses each, to get maximum tonnage overall (you choose load for each attempt, has self-weight divisions). How could this diminish BBs usefulness for strength training, I dunno.