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    Default Switching deadlift with squats

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    I've been doing SS for about 7 weeks and I noticed last week that my deadlift and squats were at the same weight(260lbs). I was still increasing by 10lbs each workout on deadlift until 2 workouts ago, but I can tell squats are going to need a reset probably within a few workouts. So I figured that switching deadlift with squats(deadlift 3x/week, squat workout A) would be logical.

    Today I tried it out and already I found a problem. For the first time I wasn't able to increase weight on an exercise, and that exercise was standing press. In fact, I could hardly do 5 reps with 70% of my projected weight for it. I know it must have been caused by the deadlift.

    Does this mean there is no way of doing deadlift every workout, switching it for squats?

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    If you have been doing the deadlift every workout, then you have not been doing my program. I specifically state that deadlifts CANNOT be tolerated as well as squats, and explain why in my normal lucid, easy-to-understand style. I suggest you review this material and start doing the program correctly.

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    I have been doing the program correctly, I just started planning on doing deadlift every workout this week. Then on the first workout it negatively affected standing press. The reason I wanted to increase deadlift frequency is because I was trying to catch it up with the other lifts.

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    The deadlift should have been done after the press, so I am puzzled by this. And you have been doing power cleans?

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    Since deadlift affected standing press, wouldn't standing press affect deadlift?

    And no, I'm doing rows.

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    The press has little effect on the deadlift since the press involves far less whole-body work, and when done before the deadlift it has no material effect in a fit person.

    And if you are doing rows instead of cleans you are not doing the program correctly.

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    I do have reasons why I chose barbell rows instead of power cleans. Barbell rows is a much simpler movement and would make me less prone to inury during the exercise than cleans. I could learn to do cleans properly, but that would take a lot of time to study and practice it to perfect the movement, and I am on a strict deadline until my tryouts. Also, I carefully studied other people's training journals who did SS with rows or cleans, and general progress wasn't any different between the two.

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    So if you have "reasons" for substituting exercises into the program, it's really still the same program? Therefore I made a mistake including cleans when rows really actually work just as well? Well, alrighty then.

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    Your program is your program, so if rows aren't in that template then using them is incorrect according to your program.

    I know you say to use cleans. Is this conclusion based on theory, or experimentation/observation and theory?

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