Originally Posted by
Gene Hawley
450 is basically the minimum at certain positions. I believe I posted videos of players deadlifting 600 lbs, 590 x 3 and a guy squatting north of 550.
I also think you are ignoring the impact of playing almost year round and being chronically injured. Try squatting with something as mild as a hip pointer. It's basically impossible. Not to mention torn muscles, back spasms, separated shoulders, concussions, even broken hands and lord knows what else. Say you basically can't lift for a month. When you are healthy you don't get time to add weight to the bar and get back to where you were, you go play which makes it impossible to make real gains. Google Sam Warburton injuries and he's not even 30.
I'd also love to know your body fat and time running 3km.
Also having kids and a desk job in no way compares to smashing yourself against Bakkies Botha or Ma'aa Nonu. A desk job is actually conducive to lifting. You want to talk about fucked up sleep? Try travelling to Japan, Australia, South Africa and Argentina, back to New Zealand, followed by a jaunt to the USA and then England. But yes, you have a toddler. Boo hoo.
I've been polite here and given facts, but you don't have a clue what you are talking about with regard to rugby training or the demands and constraints the sport places on lifting.