Sully: Strength and Endurance

[AndrewLewis]

Accelerometer. Get it together, man.

I hate myself now.

Couldn't you just integrate a differentiator circuit onto your bathroom scale? I'll bet you could lathe (verb) one up.
Better yet, lift while standing on a whoopie cushion and use a tuner to measure/record/display the changes in the faux-flatulence pitch. You'd get the extra benefits of lifting on a kind of bosu ball.

You're overthinking this.
Just lathe up a potentiometer girdle spring wound in a semi-boloid panamdermic fussellodge. You'd want to cover it with a case made of prefabulated amulite though. Maybe even a laminate of prefabulated amulite, ademantite, and unobtainium (in that order)

Yes, that would obviously be a basis.

It's been done. It's not that expensive. It's also not that useful.

[VNV]

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Just lathe up a potentiometer girdle spring wound in a semi-boloid panamdermic fussellodge. You'd want to cover it with a case made of prefabulated amulite though. Maybe even a laminate of prefabulated amulite, ademantite, and unobtainium (in that order)
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A Been signal. Indeed, where has Been been?

[Andy Baker (KSC)]

For any physical endeavor, there is an underlying base physical adaptation involved, such as strength and endurance, as well as a specific adaptation to that endeavor such as skill, technique, mental focus, etc. Doing squats is done to train strength, and strength is general, but doing squats well involves a specific adaptation as well. Specificity matters even in "general" training. If you want to be really good at squatting, you have to squat a lot. Even so, different rep ranges require specific practice. Someone who only does sets of 5 won't be good at doing heavy singles without practice.

In your example, obviously the guy with the same strength that trains the Jefferson deadlift will be better at it. Just like if the other guy trains overhead squats, he will be better at those. However, in this context, the idea is that developing the base physical adaptation, i.e. strength, will improve other endeavors. If one guy can pull 200lb max with a conventional deadlift, and trains Jefferson deadlifts on a regular basis, he will not be able to pull as much Jefferson-style, as the guy that can pull 500lb conventional that's never done a Jefferson in his life. That's the point. It's not that being stronger makes you good at everything - it doesn't, it's that it makes you better at everything.

Endurance training affects other endeavors as well, but not as generally as strength. Strength affects all activity involving force production, i.e. all activity, but endurance is more specific since the adaptations can affect the different energy systems differently (and even different parts of the body if we're talking about muscular endurance) and might not carry over as well from activity to activity.

One part I disagree with here is the notion that you train strength and the practice your sport. I think in some cases you would ideally train strength, and train conditioning, and practice your sport. If someone competes in MMA, do we say they are strong enough to compete in MMA by virtue of the fact that they compete in MMA? No, we say they should be stronger within the confines of their MMA practice. However, we say they are conditioned enough to compete in MMA since they compete in MMA. I find this inconsistent. Doing extra conditioning work, again, within the confines of their MMA-specific training, will improve their conditioning and allow them to express their MMA skill better.

We say all things being equal, the stronger fighter will win. Sure. However, what if all things are equal, and one fighter has the conditioning to last 7 rounds, while the other 5? If the fight goes to the max 5 rounds, the one with better conditioning will be fresher in the last round. Fights can be won with conditioning too.

Pretty sure on Page 185 of PPST3 there is a hypothetical training model for an MMA competitor. Pretty sure it includes dedicated sessions for Prowler Conditioning, 400m repeats at the tracks, and 300 yd shuttle runs. Other stuff could be done, but these are pretty basic and brutal and can be easily TRAINED unlike some of the silly circuit stuff that goes on in MMA S&C.

[Bill Been]

A Been signal. Indeed, where has Been been?

I have restricted myself, and indeed felt as if having done so, to investigative inquiries, questioning, interrogative, and questioning activities with respect to conditioning modalities in the effusive near term. As the Holidays approach and caloric intakes fluctuate, maximizing differentiation of recomposition efforts and effects cannot be undervalued, as Dr. Feigenbaum has said numerous times. We'd obviously prefer to skew any body mass accretion toward lean body mass and to that end various employments can be derived with respect to caloric burn enhancements and/or recovery mediations. As we approach The Starting Strength Convention in April, many burning questions and urinations can be smoothed over in these as well as other discrete arenas to follow.

[AndrewLewis]

I have restricted myself, and indeed felt as if having done so, to investigative inquiries, questioning, interrogative, and questioning activities with respect to conditioning modalities in the effusive near term. As the Holidays approach and caloric intakes fluctuate, maximizing differentiation of recomposition efforts and effects cannot be undervalued, as Dr. Feigenbaum has said numerous times. We'd obviously prefer to skew any body mass accretion toward lean body mass and to that end various employments can be derived with respect to caloric burn enhancements and/or recovery mediations. As we approach The Starting Strength Convention in April, many burning questions and urinations can be smoothed over in these as well as other discrete arenas to follow.

I didn't intentionally summon you with my Been signal, but now that you're here, I have a question: what about burning urinations? Should I get that looked at or just drink cranberry juice or something? Maybe a cranberry detox?

[Pluripotent]

I have restricted myself, and indeed felt as if having done so, to investigative inquiries, questioning, interrogative, and questioning activities with respect to conditioning modalities in the effusive near term. As the Holidays approach and caloric intakes fluctuate, maximizing differentiation of recomposition efforts and effects cannot be undervalued, as Dr. Feigenbaum has said numerous times. We'd obviously prefer to skew any body mass accretion toward lean body mass and to that end various employments can be derived with respect to caloric burn enhancements and/or recovery mediations. As we approach The Starting Strength Convention in April, many burning questions and urinations can be smoothed over in these as well as other discrete arenas to follow.

If you are having burning micturations, I might suggest that this would be more indicative of prior extramural activity, rather than being a testament to the profundity of opinion found amongst the future panelists at the Convention, however we may esteem them. It is important to distinguish between the appropriate rapture one experiences in the presence of greatness from the more mundane and pedestrian laments of this mortal flesh for medicament when we have strayed from the narrow path. One confuses the two at one's peril.

[Bill Been]

If you are having burning micturations, I might suggest that this would be more indicative of prior extramural activity, rather than being a testament to the profundity of opinion found amongst the future panelists at the Convention, however we may esteem them. It is important to distinguish between the appropriate rapture one experiences in the presence of greatness from the more mundane and pedestrian laments of this mortal flesh for medicament when we have strayed from the narrow path. One confuses the two at one's peril.

Do you have your tickets yet? Don't make me and Rip come over to your house and drag your happy ass to Wichita Falls.

[Pluripotent]

Do you have your tickets yet? Don't make me and Rip come over to your house and drag your happy ass to Wichita Falls.

I got tickets already, although I'm not opposed to the idea of a personal escort, as long as I don't have to ride in the trunk with a bag over my head...

[donfrancisco]

Since I coach MMA, fought professionally for several years and still spar 2-3 times per week, I thought I’d offer my 2 cents on the conditioning debate, at least as it pertains to my sport.

I have found any conditioning which is not precisely specific to the skills employed in MMA to be a waste of time and energy.

What I have found contributes most dramatically to improving an MMA fighter’s conditioning, besides increased strength, are improvements in their efficiency of movement and fight strategy.

[AndrewLewis]

What I have found contributes most dramatically to improving an MMA fighter’s conditioning, besides increased strength, are improvements in their efficiency of movement and fight strategy.

The hierarchy I have always recommended to beginner BJJ practitioners follows similar guidelines: technique, then strength, then conditioning.

However, if you're squatting 135lb and have a black belt, it's long overdue to put some time into strength strictly because of the law of diminishing returns. If you could linear progression technique indefinitely, (as stupid that theoretical situation as that sounds), I'd probably just do that.

What kind of non-specific conditioning did you have them do?