Save Trump from cardio

[Scaldrew]

The media and detractors are so enveloped in their cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias that they are actually questioning the bodyweight of the American President. Prepare yourselves for a second term election in 2020, boys. It's going to be a wild 7 years.

[Danny Yarbrough]

I dont know if you guys are aware of this, but his son deadlifts:



I think he is the one that should see a Starting Strength coach...

[Jimidasprinkla]

I would speculate that he is at least somewhat genetically gifted. I don’t think anyone’s disputing that he only sleeps about 4 hrs a night, has a high stress career, eats a lot of fast food, and doesn’t exercise. And yet, despite his age, he doesn’t have major health problems. Hell, most of us might not even make it to his age with his lifestyle. I would wager that he would get really good results if he were to actually pick up a barbell.

[LimieJosh]

Are you aware that he had a thoracic CT and a thoracic ultrasound? The lab values were not the only things going on here.

It from the thoracic CT that the coronary calcium measure is derived. However, no man reaches 80 or however old Trump is without developing "heart disease", at that age it just becomes a question whether it's bad enough to kill you before something else does.

[Keith Burnett]

He likely does, given his high calcium score, which has good predictive value for coronary artery disease independent of other risk factors. The landmark paper describing this test, which basically looks at calcified plaque level in the coronary arteries, is here: Coronary calcium as a predictor of coronary events in four racial or ethnic groups. - PubMed - NCBI. This is relevant because the presence of calcified/mature plaques indicates the presence lots of uncalcified (and less stable) plaques, which pose a risk to rupture and cause an event like a heart attack.

To your earlier point, it's improbable because those numbers miraculously give him a BMI of 29.9. If he were any shorter (as seems indicated in many photos) or even a pound heavier, he would be considered obese, which would certainly not jive with the report of 'excellent health.' Putting aside that BMI is not good for strength athletes (which Trump is not) and that the difference between a BMI of 29 and 30 is a rounding error, it's easy to see why these numbers would be in the best interest of Trump's team and by extension. It's image and perception, and a plausible slight fudging of the numbers to save an unneccessary shitstorm.

Anybody who wants to interpret Trumps as "bad"...will do so , and stretch or contort every possible way to distract, much as a magician does.

First of all his personal military physician, same one as last two presidents, put him through a battery of tests that is quite comprehensive and consulted with appropriate specialists on just about everything. With his office in the WH, he is in a position to assess the President on a daily basis and now for a full quarter.....does your doctor do that? the art of being a doctor, and I should know, is learning how to look at the "whole" person and make judgements within the limitations of the various tests. and many of these tests have limitations and require context to be more accurately interpreted.

I digress.....Barack Obama smoked like a chimney for decades, but nobody every said a peep. He was always chewing gum, presumably Nicorette, and may have continued smoking in private. He was damn skinny and pumped big iron...(3 lb weights). He dallied with drugs including cocaine use....and more than a little weed. His basketball skill were subpar, despite the fawning. NOBODY SAID BOO.

OK...back to facts about DJT. Of all the cardiac tests perhaps the two worth considering related to LDL and CAC. It's not that he does or does not have any coronary artery disease...he does. The question is about risk. IN fact, even with a CAC of 100 and somewhat rising over years (yes risk increasing in population studies), his PERSONAL risk, given all the other factors is very low for a man of his age, race, etc. Sanjay Gupta is acting like a dipshit...a disgrace. He is a narcissist to boot. He and Dr Oz are an "item".

If you want guarantees.....buy a TV. If you want a life....DJT, having not smoked or consumed alcohol...and being mildly "overweight" (known now to be a protective factor in all cause mortality for the aging), no family history of CVD, no HTN...NO DIABETES...and NO POLYPHARMACY...is pretty damn good. But the naysayers want to freak out about CAC in a man over 70 with a score of 100.

Could he conceivably "improve" his status? Maybe...and doctors will heckle patients about LDL and all such numbers until they "submit" to a pharmacological solution. You have seen how good that turned out for "cholesterol".

FAKE NEWS=NOISE (with attitude).

[Mark Rippetoe]

I would speculate that he is at least somewhat genetically gifted. I don’t think anyone’s disputing that he only sleeps about 4 hrs a night, has a high stress career, eats a lot of fast food, and doesn’t exercise. And yet, despite his age, he doesn’t have major health problems. Hell, most of us might not even make it to his age with his lifestyle. I would wager that he would get really good results if he were to actually pick up a barbell.

And how do we know that he "eats a lot of fast food"? Because CNN tells us so? Seriously?

[Mark Rippetoe]

It from the thoracic CT that the coronary calcium measure is derived. However, no man reaches 80 or however old Trump is without developing "heart disease", at that age it just becomes a question whether it's bad enough to kill you before something else does.

He's 71. Unfortunately for about 40% of the population, the upshot of this exam is that he has no cognitive impairment, and he's not going to die in office unless these people agitating for his assassination are successful.

[Keith Burnett]

He's 71. Unfortunately for about 40% of the population, the upshot of this exam is that he has no cognitive impairment, and he's not going to die in office unless these people agitating for his assassination are successful.

That would be correct....ie regarding cognitive impairment.

Would he be certified free of personality disorders or other psychiatric issues....MMSE not a substitute for that type of evaluation. However, we have a pretty good start on that type of evaluation by a common sense authority, his personal physician, who has no dog in the fight, sees him every day up to three times/day, engages in wide ranging conversations , has other information about interpersonal interactions and all sorts of information even a shrink might not have available.

He doesn't even have dental "disease". I was waiting, however, to see how his prostate felt....

I would like to see an MMSE on Nancy Pelosi.

[PhillySteak]

This thread slipped away from the original proposal. Why don't we make and effort get Donald Trump (Jr as well) on a Starting Strength program. For example, we could use a petition site such as (MoveOn Petitions) to petition the Whitehouse to get him on Starting Strength. Even if it doesn't work, it could be a good publicity stunt for the SS brand. Rip suggested that Mike Pence might introduce Trump to SS. Does Mike Pence know about SS?

[Mark Rippetoe]

One does not petition the "White House" to get the President of the United States to do anything. The President is the White House.