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    Question SS and bad shoulders

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    I am 61 and started working out. I found SS and switched.

    I have had frozen shoulder on both sides and surgery on one. My LP is stalled on Press and Bench. I always fail before the 3rd working set of both. The shoulders sound like dueling ratchets.

    I have worked with a SS Coach (highly recommended) so my form is reasonable good.

    My question is: Should I continue with the presses and trust it will work out? Or find alternative exercises?

    Thanks.

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    There are no alternative exercises. Are you doing 5s or 3s?

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    3 sets of 5 after warmups

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    3s work better for guys our age. Switch to sets of 3 and see if that helps.

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    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    3s work better for guys our age. Switch to sets of 3 and see if that helps.
    My question is based on an important semantic difference. Do you have "frozen shoulder"....or adhesive capsulitis?

    Frozen shoulder is a self limited syndrome of stiffness and severe pain that goes through generally predictable stages and may last a year or so (if lucky,less). It is not generally a good idea to mess with it, although orthos will occasionally counsel cortisone injects in early stage and if really agressive, ROM under anesthesia. (ugh). I've not heard of rehabbing with strength training, but hell whatever works (most will recommend stretching exercises and mobility stuff).

    Adhesive capsulitis and post operative stiffness are potentially different animals and surgery may be an option if real adhesions.....but it can recur.

    You need to know, as precisely as possible what the hell you have. Otherwise,go with the 3s as the master opines.My .02c...no copayment necessary.

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    I had surgery for a SLAP tear. Regular pain (when loaded) from then on; until I started SS. Now I forget the surgery ever happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Burnett View Post

    Frozen shoulder is a self limited syndrome of stiffness and severe pain that goes through generally predictable stages and may last a year or so (if lucky,less). It is not generally a good idea to mess with it, although orthos will occasionally counsel cortisone injects in early stage and if really agressive, ROM under anesthesia. (ugh). I've not heard of rehabbing with strength training, but hell whatever works (most will recommend stretching exercises and mobility stuff)
    I recently advised a friend with frozen shoulder to press. It worked beautifully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    3s work better for guys our age. Switch to sets of 3 and see if that helps.
    Coach, 3 sets of three? Or 5 sets of three? (Asks this 65 year old in a similar place as the OP. )

    Thanks in advance.

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    starting strength coach development program
    Start with 3 sets, then add sets if necessary or as tolerated.

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