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Not trying to piss in your Cheerios
Just making a point.
SS is just a training program progressive overload over time with compound movements.
They have plenty protocols over the last 30 years that work.
Plate Loaded machines have their place also.
SS is a good program for a beginner to get started.
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I'd amend this..... SOME PEOPLE would pay..... And when you sell the best XYZ, not everyone wants the best. And not everyone can afford the best. And you don't target everyone. Just SOME of the people. This is regardless of the 'product' being sold.Originally Posted by AndrewLewis
TMPHBITEU
How old are you, jump?
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Over 50.
Again no disrespect to your program MR.
In fact it’s a proven program along with many others in the tool box.
Cross Fit for example was responsible for putting more people with Barbells in their hands than any training program in modern history.
It’s another tool in the tool box.
TMPHBITEU
Then I can ask you this question, since you seem to be old enough to be qualified to answer it: Before Starting Strength was published in 2005, what other published program used the 5 basic barbell exercises in a specific way that added a small amount of weight to the bar every workout with no real variation in exercise selection, for the sole purpose of accumulating a strength adaptation? Name it for us.
I don't think you disrespect our program. I think you don't understand how it's different, and why it is valuable.
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Not to derail, but the popularity of boxing and climbing gyms, CrossFit "boxes," Orange Theory, Zumba, and Pilates studios have all demonstrated the market desireability of "one note" fitness shops.
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Does anything work better? If not, why would we include it?
Can you elaborate?
The Starting Strength Novice Linear Progression is a good place for a beginner to get started. Starting Strength is a brand that represents an approach to strength training and we cater to all levels of advancement.
Jump, what would your strength/health/capability/injury situation be if you did WODs three times per week for the next ten years, or if you had a Starting Strength Coach design a program for you to make sure you're adding weight to the bar as often as possible?
The logic is:
-Training is better than exercise because it is goal oriented and ensures your aren't wasting time in the gym
-Strength is the best outcome to pursue since getting stronger positively affects more aspects of health/fitness than anything else you can train for
-Strength accumulates over years and decades, making it the best mid-long term use of time
-Starting Strength (including the intermediate/advanced programming that follows NLP) is the most efficient way to get strong
-To maximize your success with the program, technique should be as close to the model as possible and programming should be specific to your current level of advancement
-You can learn this on your own, you can hire an Online Coach, you can hire an in person coach, or you can come to one of our gyms and not worry about anything but showing up, sleeping, and eating
Summary: Getting stronger is the best use of time in the gym for most people. There is no more efficient/effective approach to getting stronger than training under the guidance of a Starting Strength Coach, in person, 2-4x/week.
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RG
I agree with everything you say in your last post.
MR
Most Strength Training programs published are by independent coaches not per say a business model.
For example. Russell Paternostro was a brilliant Strength Coach. He was a NFL Strength Coach for many years then formulated a program to training the average Joe.
Tom Shaw might the best in the World for Speed and Conditioning. His athletes go from Tom Brady, Payton Manning to most of the fastest in the History of the NFL Combine in the 40 have trained under Tom Shaw. Again none of the above has a published book. Most have individual programs custom designed for each Athlete.
My point is SS is a excellent Information book explaining the principles of strength training.
It’s a great Tool for the Tool Box.
I am sorry no intention of discrediting the program.
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Jump, you don't have the ability to discredit the program, because you don't know anything about it, or about the programs these other coaches use, or about the people for whom they were prescribed, or about how effective they were and are, or really about anything you're typing about.
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